Keris Hilt: A Kemo Kerdas/Bugis Hilt (Help Needed)

BluErf · 31st March 2005, 02:25 PM

Notice the black inclusion on the hilt. Mine has those too. So does the one Dave posted a while back. I think it's real kemoh.

The form of the kerdas hilt is ok, but not great. But of course, we must take into consideration that kemoh is very difficult to carve.

rasdan · 1st April 2005, 02:18 AM

Thanks Blu,

The hilt does have some carved lines like the tyical Bugis hilt, but it is barely visible. The lines are at the "cheek" , back of the balung and the forehead. Any idea to determine wheather is old or new?

Battara · 1st April 2005, 08:51 PM

For the phenominally ignorant, what is kemoh?

nechesh · 1st April 2005, 09:09 PM

Come on Jose, don't you know by now that we keris enthusiasts love to use all kinds of words and terms to keep the uninitiated in the dark?

Really, i believe it is just a local term for the type of giant clam shell used for this hilt. Then again, it could really mean.......

rasdan · 2nd April 2005, 02:21 AM

Hi Jose,

Actually even kemoh is a north eastern dialact. The accepted malay word is Kima. In English it is Tridacna. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

BluErf · 2nd April 2005, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasdan

Thanks Blu,

The hilt does have some carved lines like the tyical Bugis hilt, but it is barely visible. The lines are at the "cheek" , back of the balung and the forehead. Any idea to determine wheather is old or new?

Heheh... I've given up trying date kerises and keris parts except for the obviously new ones.

Sorry, can't help much.

31st March 2005, 02:25 PM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Notice the black inclusion on the hilt. Mine has those too. So does the one Dave posted a while back. I think it's real kemoh. The form of the kerdas hilt is ok, but not great. But of course, we must take into consideration that kemoh is very difficult to carve. Attached Images

1st April 2005, 02:18 AM	#2
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 368	Thanks Blu, The hilt does have some carved lines like the tyical Bugis hilt, but it is barely visible. The lines are at the "cheek" , back of the balung and the forehead. Any idea to determine wheather is old or new?

1st April 2005, 08:51 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	For the phenominally ignorant, what is kemoh?

1st April 2005, 09:09 PM	#4
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Come on Jose, don't you know by now that we keris enthusiasts love to use all kinds of words and terms to keep the uninitiated in the dark? Really, i believe it is just a local term for the type of giant clam shell used for this hilt. Then again, it could really mean.......

2nd April 2005, 02:21 AM	#5
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 368	Hi Jose, Actually even kemoh is a north eastern dialact. The accepted malay word is Kima. In English it is Tridacna. Sorry for the misunderstanding.