Java keris for comments old scabbard / new blade ?

ferrylaki · 16th July 2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

I bought this keris from a picture on the web.

Now in hands I get the idea that the blade is not as old as the scabbard.
Any ideas / comments ?

I can see from the pictures, the warangka is not originated to the blade.
old silver pendok. your keris seem to be an old blade.
your close up pictures are blur. can you provide us more detailed pictures?

Rick · 16th July 2008, 03:29 AM

There is quite a difference in execution between the pecetans on either side of this blade .

PenangsangII · 16th July 2008, 04:26 AM

The trouble with Javanese kerises is that there are so many "skillful" keris makers in Java & Madura. Most of the times, appraising the likely age of the keris by looking at pictures alone is almost an impossible task. This example looks like having an age, but at the same time my instinct tells me it's quite "young" but artificially aged, judging from the sorsoran and ricikan. But I cannot tell with absolute certainty

David · 16th July 2008, 02:14 PM

I lean towards Penangsang's opinion on this keris. I think it could be new with aggresive etching and aging applied.

asomotif · 16th July 2008, 07:51 PM

some more pics of the blade now with peksi

David · 16th July 2008, 08:00 PM

The pesi looks pretty robust. I am still inclined to believe that this is late 20th century or even 21st century work.

Henk · 16th July 2008, 10:17 PM

Rather new keris. Well made, but new.

16th July 2008, 07:51 PM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	some more pics of the blade now with peksi Attached Images

16th July 2008, 03:29 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	There is quite a difference in execution between the pecetans on either side of this blade .

16th July 2008, 04:26 AM	#3
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	The trouble with Javanese kerises is that there are so many "skillful" keris makers in Java & Madura. Most of the times, appraising the likely age of the keris by looking at pictures alone is almost an impossible task. This example looks like having an age, but at the same time my instinct tells me it's quite "young" but artificially aged, judging from the sorsoran and ricikan. But I cannot tell with absolute certainty

16th July 2008, 02:14 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	I lean towards Penangsang's opinion on this keris. I think it could be new with aggresive etching and aging applied.

16th July 2008, 08:00 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	The pesi looks pretty robust. I am still inclined to believe that this is late 20th century or even 21st century work.

16th July 2008, 10:17 PM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Rather new keris. Well made, but new.