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Old 10th June 2008, 02:01 PM   #1
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I have no clue of the pamor but must agree with David that it is a very nice looking keris
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Old 10th June 2008, 02:18 PM   #2
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BTW Sjors, here's a pretty good quick on-line look at different pamors. Click on the catagories at the bottom of the page for more:
http://old.blades.free.fr/keris/intr...ilah/pamor.htm

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Old 10th June 2008, 02:28 PM   #3
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Thank you very much, so far.
Nice you like the keris
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Old 10th June 2008, 04:08 PM   #4
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Sjors,

In general your keris' pamor is ngulit semongko. Perhaps, to be more specific, It could be called pamor of wahyu tumurun (goodluck-fall), too. The purpose?
In ancient believe, to get a certain position in social structure, somebody must get a divine-revelation/goodluck first. For instance to be a governor. Even there is someone who is smart, hardworking, courteous, prominent, handsome... in a simple word.. he has everything but WAHYU, he will not be chosen as governor if he run for that position. This believe is actually still exist in Indonesia nowadays.

In specific, perhaps your keris has 3 kind of pamors. The gonjo has pamor of maskumambang (floating gold). It is believe that the perpose of this pamor is to make the owner/master having ability to associate easily with anyone from all different social levels. The master will be mastery to associate with people either from lower, similiar or higher status.

In the bottom of blade, perhaps there is pamor of bawangsebungkul (onion-slece). The purpose of bawangsebungkul is to make its master's family lives peacefully in harmony.

The rest is either pamor of ngulit-semongko or wahyu tumurun.

Hope the information above is useful.

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Old 10th June 2008, 08:02 PM   #5
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Dear Raden Usman Djogja,
Thank you very much for your elaborate answer; it's always nice to learn something new every new day! (and I allready know that I'll have some other questions very soon)
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Old 10th June 2008, 09:23 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Raden Usman Djogja
Sjors,

In general your keris' pamor is ngulit semongko. Perhaps, to be more specific, It could be called pamor of wahyu tumurun (goodluck-fall), too. The purpose?
Sjors,

It seems, "someone" is playing soccer... (I agree, its pamor is ngulit semangka, or ngulit semongko. And the keris' dhapur or model is "tilamupih"...)
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Old 11th June 2008, 03:36 AM   #7
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I thought I saw "ujung gunung" or "batu lapak-like pamor" at the sor-soran.
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Old 11th June 2008, 05:49 AM   #8
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Dear ganjawulung;

A "Dutch" keris with a soccerplayer on it... at the time of The European Soccer Championships... and we won our first game and our opponent was the ruling European Champion!
Do I need to say more???

And you probably know that most Dutch are totally mad about soccer
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