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Dear Michael, Shahrial and All,
This is just more example on kusia hilt, or kocet-kocetan. I bought this hilt from a senior collector in Jakarta last week. Hopefully, it will be useful to you all... GANJAWULUNG (Jakarta, June 1, 2008) |
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What is the hilt material Ganjawulung ?
It looks like Cinnabar; is it ? Very nice acquisition . ![]() |
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It is pure wooden hilts, with good (old) finishing. Looks like Cinnabar (red mercury sulfide, HgS), but really it is made of wood. Maybe a kind of "tayuman" (?) or "tri kanchu" wood. I got other hilts too from this senior collector, pattani hilts (tajong hilts) and maybe kelantan hilts too. Later I'll post in other thread. Regards, GANJAWULUNG (Jakarta, June 1, 2008) |
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Beautiful example Ganja, thank you.
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Very nice hilt Ganja!
I look forward to see the other hilts you acquired from this collection. Michael |
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Thank you Pak Jimmy for sharing the beautiful hilt.
![]() This head is a 'horse-form' for this one. |
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![]() One question is - why would the beetle have a horse head? |
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Yes, the preying mantis seems to be a wrong identification (possibly based on the weird head of some of these hilts).
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A wood worker in rural Bali will have been acquainted with the actual beetle as well as the pupae. Those hilts shown by Nieuwenkamp (drawn in 1907) are amazingly accurate... However, the stylized head is already evident in the left example. (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...chmentid=26914) Maybe this was done to symbolize more than a "mere" animal? Similar to other mythological creatures looking like a human/animal mix (e.g. Hanuman)? Regards, Kai |
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Old thread, resurrected because I am researching the Kocet-Kocetan hilts since I bought 2.
In this catalogue by a terminated auction we read : https://zeeuwsveilinghuis.nl/blog/ru...nese-dancer-2/ "...Although many ‘experts’ have claimed this special type of handle to represent a mythological horse or eagle (Garuda), W.O.J. Nieuwenkamp (1874-1950) proved –already in 1905!- that we are dealing with a stylized six-legged longhorn beetle (Batocera hector). In Balinese, it is referred to as Kocet Kocetan, derived from the penetrating sound it makes (1). It is said that this insect represents one of the Primordial Animals, Batara Karpa, a beetle whose mother was Dewi Winata, a bird-demon, who was married to Rishi Kasyapa, a tortoise. Three other animal gods were born from this marriage: Batara Garuda, the eagle, Batara Agniya, the marten, and Batara Kowara, the snake. Batara Karpa, or Kusia, is closely linked to one of the three main gods (Trimurti), Brahma, which in turn implicates that keris with a kocet kocetan handle are only allowed to be worn by Brahmans. Similar to a caterpillar changing into a butterfly, the kocet kocetan is also said to symbolize a youth on the verge of becoming an adult or undergoing an evolution in profession or status ...." Last edited by milandro; 10th March 2023 at 11:17 AM. Reason: removing capitals from the species name |
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Hello André,
Yes, this hilt type clearly represents the pupa of longhorn beetles. That is the reason why the third pair of legs is partially covered by the (future) wing, at least if carved by someone who knows what he's doing. (BTW, are there any female carvers nowadays or is it still considered a pure male profession/past time?) Beetles are holometabolic insects which pass through a distinct pupa stage (as butterflies, etc.) even if the metamorphosis is a bit less striking since beetle pupae already exhibit body and appendages similar to adults (cp. the Nieuwenkamp drawing: both hilts resemble the pupa while the adult beetle on the left is different; one has to concede that the carvers exhibit varying talent/knowledge though, especially nowadays we see all sorts of monster versions). This life stage concept was already alluded to in this discussion and (aside from the Hindu creation narrative) is a really interesting aspect of this hilt type's symbolism, I believe. Regards, Kai |
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An old (Ivory?) Kocet-Kocetan hilt for sharing, it was found intact with a Jalak Budha keris.
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Thanks for posting this special hilt, Wijaya!
To me, this looks like an ancestor figural hilt (squatting posture with arms on both sides). Maybe Sumbawa? Regards, Kai |
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Doesn't look like ivory either, but better photos might reveal more. |
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