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Old 20th May 2008, 02:21 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by parong sari
this is a rare malela wich i say because the layer of the blade is not of aging, years of cleaning nor it is a pamor.. this blade has a "miang perak", which means the metal was forge with silver in a way that the result is as what we see in the pics..
Sorry for missing your first post and not welcoming you to the forum Parong Sari.
On what do you base your assertion that this blade is forged with silver? It doesn't seem clear from the pictures. Have you handled this keris?
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Old 21st May 2008, 02:13 AM   #2
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A single line description of the piece would be,
Keris Malela Terengganu, Luk 5, Miang Perak...

Imho, besi malela when mixed with miang perak, weakens the structure of the blade. With the architecture of the malela's fullers, the blade strength weakens. You'll still get a lightweight blade... but.

Although unique, this is not a common practice for malela blade, afaik.
For malela blades, the metal is more 'compacted', thus enhancing its strength. Newer pieces tend to be nicely sculpted but the material, less compact.
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Old 21st May 2008, 02:53 AM   #3
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I always thought besi malela (not keris malela) is the type of iron that had a lot of impurities i.e. crystalite or sylvery looks, and considered as less preferrable choice in making keris.
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Old 21st May 2008, 03:42 AM   #4
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I always thought besi malela (not keris malela) is the type of iron that had a lot of impurities i.e. crystalite or sylvery looks, and considered as less preferrable choice in making keris.
In Javanese and Malay context, it is different... refer to Northern Malay pandai besi.

Miang perak from pasir malela is different from besi malela in the peninsula context, afaik.

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Old 21st May 2008, 10:58 AM   #5
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Thx Alam Shah.

BTW, would it be possible that the outer layer of this keris is actually besi pasir malela and the core is besi baja similar to the ganja part?
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Old 25th May 2008, 03:41 AM   #6
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thanks for the comments..
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