A question of Chinese Pole arms

ZhenjieWu · 25th March 2008, 07:44 AM

Hi everyone
I am chinese. as I know, so called Kwan Dao means a dao used for chopping."Kwan" or "kek" is chinese pronunciation of chop, and "shuang" is chinese pronunciation of double.So when sb use "shuang" dao, it means he has two dao(usually almost the same style, material,weight).
Kwan Dao can be devided into 3 kinds roughly:
A) self-defence dao:usually no more than 1m long, one-edged blade, designed for slashing and sometimes thrusting. This kind of dao is also called "Yao" dao, means waist dao, because of the way how people carry them.
B) "Zhan Ma" dao(means horses killer dao):usually 1.5m long, one-edged blade, with a reletive long handle(about 50cm), designed mainly for the footman to slash enemy horseman's horse.
C)"Yan Yue" dao(pole weapon): usually several meters long, one-edged blade, with a reletive short heade(about 80cm), designed for strong man in battle,or honour guards to sabre-rattle. Slashing is the mail function of this kind of weapon.
Actually there are too many kinds of Dao in Chinese history, every dynasty or every state has its own style of dao or swords.

Gavin Nugent · 26th March 2008, 11:10 AM

Thank you for your input ZhenjieWu and thanks too Phillip and Josh for your help thus far, but guys but can anyone definitively say what these wooden polearms are?

thanks

Gav

ZhenjieWu · 26th March 2008, 02:37 PM

Maybe These images can help you.
Series one:

ZhenjieWu · 26th March 2008, 02:58 PM

These pictures(not mine) show how the wood pole were connected with the Dao. Click http://hfsword.com/bbs/viewthread.ph...B9%D8%B5%B6%2B for more information.

josh stout · 26th March 2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

Thank you for your input ZhenjieWu and thanks too Phillip and Josh for your help thus far, but guys but can anyone definitively say what these wooden polearms are?

thanks

Gav

Phillip's answer was quite definitive. I made a slight tangent to get a definition of the word "kek", and ZhengjieWu posted some nice pictures of what Chinese versions made for use would look like.

Just go back and read Phillip's first post and forget the rest.
Josh

Gavin Nugent · 26th March 2008, 07:29 PM

Thanks Josh, I got the temple regalia bit, but the answer is not so definate when it comes to region?

regards

Gav

Gavin Nugent · 30th March 2008, 10:34 PM

Thanks for your help fellow collectors, as mentioned by Phillip, I will put them down as Vietnamese unless someone indicates otherwise in the future. ZhengjieWu, the polearm images you posted have certainly helped and have also revealed some insight to another mystery dao that I was interested in.

very best regards

Gav

25th March 2008, 07:44 AM	#1
ZhenjieWu Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12	Chinese Dao Hi everyone I am chinese. as I know, so called Kwan Dao means a dao used for chopping."Kwan" or "kek" is chinese pronunciation of chop, and "shuang" is chinese pronunciation of double.So when sb use "shuang" dao, it means he has two dao(usually almost the same style, material,weight). Kwan Dao can be devided into 3 kinds roughly: A) self-defence dao:usually no more than 1m long, one-edged blade, designed for slashing and sometimes thrusting. This kind of dao is also called "Yao" dao, means waist dao, because of the way how people carry them. B) "Zhan Ma" dao(means horses killer dao):usually 1.5m long, one-edged blade, with a reletive long handle(about 50cm), designed mainly for the footman to slash enemy horseman's horse. C)"Yan Yue" dao(pole weapon): usually several meters long, one-edged blade, with a reletive short heade(about 80cm), designed for strong man in battle,or honour guards to sabre-rattle. Slashing is the mail function of this kind of weapon. Actually there are too many kinds of Dao in Chinese history, every dynasty or every state has its own style of dao or swords.

26th March 2008, 11:10 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	thanks guys Thank you for your input ZhenjieWu and thanks too Phillip and Josh for your help thus far, but guys but can anyone definitively say what these wooden polearms are? thanks Gav

26th March 2008, 02:37 PM	#3
ZhenjieWu Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12	Maybe These images can help you. Series one: Last edited by ZhenjieWu; 26th March 2008 at 03:03 PM.

26th March 2008, 07:29 PM	#6
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Phillip's post Thanks Josh, I got the temple regalia bit, but the answer is not so definate when it comes to region? regards Gav

30th March 2008, 10:34 PM	#7
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	I'll put them down to Vietnamese. Thanks for your help fellow collectors, as mentioned by Phillip, I will put them down as Vietnamese unless someone indicates otherwise in the future. ZhengjieWu, the polearm images you posted have certainly helped and have also revealed some insight to another mystery dao that I was interested in. very best regards Gav

26th March 2008, 02:58 PM	#4
ZhenjieWu Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12	These pictures(not mine) show how the wood pole were connected with the Dao. Click http://hfsword.com/bbs/viewthread.ph...B9%D8%B5%B6%2B for more information.