Executioner's Keris For Comment

Newsteel · 22nd March 2008, 06:53 AM

Good Keris Panjang. But I think the hilt is not the right form.

Lew · 22nd March 2008, 03:18 PM

Newsteel

This may be an older hilt form everything is very tight and seems original to the package that is why I posted it. Usually the ones I have seen in the past have an slightly curved hilts. There is a hollowed section or hole in the butt of the hilt that extends about a third of the way down and I can see the end of the pesi.

Lew

kai · 23rd March 2008, 05:12 AM

Hello Lew,

Good Sumatran blade, I guess.

I also don't think that the hilt is original; seems more like a western hemisphere replacement...

Regards,
Kai

asomotif · 25th March 2008, 05:45 PM

The hilt is indeed a bit western influenced imho.
Enclosed one I recenlty bought for comparison.
Also not the most elaborate of hiltforms.

Amuk Murugul · 25th March 2008, 08:46 PM

Hullo everybody,

As the Keris Panjang is extant all over the archipelago, I would lean towards a Nusa Tenggara hilt (MVHO, anyway).

Best.

Flavio · 25th March 2008, 08:53 PM

Hi all! on the first pages of Van Z's book there is a wonderful executioner keris with a handle of the same shape of Lew's keris

Regards

Flavio

Bill · 25th March 2008, 10:49 PM

Some time ago, I tried to find out about these. Not a lot of good information available. I did read that many were of high quality fittings, as the people that wore them had the power of justice. The blade looks excellent & the simple hilt may be because it was actually used for executions, where many may be more of a status symbol.

kai · 30th March 2008, 02:26 AM

Quote:

on the first pages of Van Z's book there is a wonderful executioner keris with a handle of the same shape of Lew's keris

The one in Albert's book is carved (and slightly asymmetrical) while Lew's seems to be turned. Also, the "mendak" doesn't look Indonesian. The hole apparently going completely through the hilt doesn't help to convince me of its Indonesian origin either.

Regards,
Kai

25th March 2008, 05:45 PM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	The hilt is indeed a bit western influenced imho. Enclosed one I recenlty bought for comparison. Also not the most elaborate of hiltforms. Attached Images

25th March 2008, 08:46 PM	#5
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 472	Nusa Tenggara Hilt? Hullo everybody, As the Keris Panjang is extant all over the archipelago, I would lean towards a Nusa Tenggara hilt (MVHO, anyway). Best.

22nd March 2008, 06:53 AM	#1
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	Good Keris Panjang. But I think the hilt is not the right form.

22nd March 2008, 03:18 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Newsteel This may be an older hilt form everything is very tight and seems original to the package that is why I posted it. Usually the ones I have seen in the past have an slightly curved hilts. There is a hollowed section or hole in the butt of the hilt that extends about a third of the way down and I can see the end of the pesi. Lew

23rd March 2008, 05:12 AM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Lew, Good Sumatran blade, I guess. I also don't think that the hilt is original; seems more like a western hemisphere replacement... Regards, Kai

25th March 2008, 08:53 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hi all! on the first pages of Van Z's book there is a wonderful executioner keris with a handle of the same shape of Lew's keris Regards Flavio

25th March 2008, 10:49 PM	#7
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Some time ago, I tried to find out about these. Not a lot of good information available. I did read that many were of high quality fittings, as the people that wore them had the power of justice. The blade looks excellent & the simple hilt may be because it was actually used for executions, where many may be more of a status symbol.