E. Java or Lombok keris blade?

sipakatuo · 20th December 2007, 05:52 AM

It looks like Keris lombok to me

BluErf · 20th December 2007, 05:57 AM

Thank you. May I ask if it is common in Lombok to find such proportionately short keris blades with larger sheath and hilt?

sipakatuo · 20th December 2007, 06:13 AM

The materials of the blade looks like materials from Java. In my opinion, looking at the garap, ricikan and the dapur it is almost sure to me that it is a lombok Keris. It is quite common to find Keris lombok with similar Java materials. If looking at the history of Lombok as I have read from a book (Keris di Lombok, By Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga) it tells that Majapahit (E.Java) and Bugis Makassar (Sulawesi) plays important role in the develepoment of Keris in Lombok. Likewise in Sumatra, Malaysia and Bugis where they have similarity in the materials (Besi Luwuk) and so the warangka. So my conclusion to your answer is, Yes it is quite common. Perhaps other members can also give comments.

David · 20th December 2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

Thank you. May I ask if it is common in Lombok to find such proportionately short keris blades with larger sheath and hilt?

Hi Kai Wee. I think that the size of the sheath is somewhat determined by the style of dress and how the keris is worn in public. The sheath would have to be large enough to wear up the back with the hilt popping up over the shoulder. I think the sheath size would therefore be fairly consistent regardless of the size of the blade.

BluErf · 20th December 2007, 01:55 PM

Hmmm... that makes sense too!

Rick · 20th December 2007, 03:12 PM

If I'm not mistaken .

I have gonjo iras that is in Bali derss too; here's a picture of the sorsoran .

BluErf · 20th December 2007, 04:01 PM

That's an unusual keris. Almost like kebo tiki.

You haven't been in touch with your keris?! Quick, take it out and touch it, oil it, admire it, whatever.

Rick · 20th December 2007, 04:52 PM

It's all a bit 'Touristic' but the elements are done in a tasteful fashion .

20th December 2007, 03:12 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,366	Gonjo Iras If I'm not mistaken . I have gonjo iras that is in Bali derss too; here's a picture of the sorsoran . Attached Images

20th December 2007, 04:52 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,366	Dressed It's all a bit 'Touristic' but the elements are done in a tasteful fashion . Attached Images

20th December 2007, 05:52 AM	#1
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	It looks like Keris lombok to me

20th December 2007, 05:57 AM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Thank you. May I ask if it is common in Lombok to find such proportionately short keris blades with larger sheath and hilt?

20th December 2007, 06:13 AM	#3
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	The materials of the blade looks like materials from Java. In my opinion, looking at the garap, ricikan and the dapur it is almost sure to me that it is a lombok Keris. It is quite common to find Keris lombok with similar Java materials. If looking at the history of Lombok as I have read from a book (Keris di Lombok, By Ir. H. Lalu Djelenga) it tells that Majapahit (E.Java) and Bugis Makassar (Sulawesi) plays important role in the develepoment of Keris in Lombok. Likewise in Sumatra, Malaysia and Bugis where they have similarity in the materials (Besi Luwuk) and so the warangka. So my conclusion to your answer is, Yes it is quite common. Perhaps other members can also give comments.

20th December 2007, 01:55 PM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hmmm... that makes sense too!

20th December 2007, 04:01 PM	#7
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	That's an unusual keris. Almost like kebo tiki. You haven't been in touch with your keris?! Quick, take it out and touch it, oil it, admire it, whatever.