Another tulwar ... to join the others

Jens Nordlunde · 11th December 2007, 02:56 PM

Hi Fernando,

Your ’new’ tulwar is from Sind. The cuplike disc, the very slim grip, hardly without a belly, the small rather thin dropping quillons, the rather long, but thin langets and the rope like design at the both ends of the grip. One or more of these things can be missing, but on your hilt they are all there

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Jens

fernando · 11th December 2007, 08:42 PM

Thanks a lot for your comprehensive input, Jim.
Besides your keen geographical positioning of this piece, i am pleased with your observation that it looks to be from the XVIII century, a vital element for my collecting tastes.
An interesting particular abouth the handle dimensions, and this also replying to David's kind posting, is that in fact its actual length is not longer than the usual. It's the grip slimness, together with the wider angle of the droping quillons, that makes it having a different aspect and, why not, a bit more room for the fist, thus becoming more "user friendly".
Thanks a lot for both your postings.
Fernando

fernando · 11th December 2007, 08:52 PM

Hi Jens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Hi Fernando,

Your ’new’ tulwar is from Sind. The cuplike disc, the very slim grip, hardly without a belly, the small rather thin dropping quillons, the rather long, but thin langets and the rope like design at the both ends of the grip. One or more of these things can be missing, but on your hilt they are all there

.

Jens

So much obliged

I am deeply glad for having this piece identified

I consider your posting a Christmas gift

Would you agree with Jim that this is from the 18th century ?
Thanks again
Fernando

Jens Nordlunde · 11th December 2007, 09:38 PM

Fernando,
Yes, i can agree to Jim's suggestion - although I would say late 18th, or maybe early 19th century. It would help if you could provide a close up of the blade where it shows something blank, as I am not quite sure waht it is.
Nice tulwar anyway, and one of the few, which can be pin pointed

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Jens

katana · 12th December 2007, 12:17 PM

Hi Fernando,
could you post a clear close-up picture of the blade ( the clean section). When I 'enhanced' and enlarged the blade picture....there seemed to be 'signs' of patterning, it could be an effect caused by the enlargement ... but ...it looks alittle like wootz.
It might be worth doing a light etch on the 'clean' section ....just in case

Kind Regards David

fernando · 12th December 2007, 03:13 PM

Thank you Jens.
I will take note on the age.
This is what i could capture, with day light and strong sun shining ... a frequent event over here, even diring winter

. These blank parts could be because they were oiled or greased more than the rest, so they didn't oxide ... i don't really know

I will anxiously wait for your coments.

Thank you David.
I don't think there's any steel activity like wootz or the like, in this blade

Will these pictures define the situation to your eyes ?
Please tell

Fernando

11th December 2007, 02:56 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Hi Fernando, Your ’new’ tulwar is from Sind. The cuplike disc, the very slim grip, hardly without a belly, the small rather thin dropping quillons, the rather long, but thin langets and the rope like design at the both ends of the grip. One or more of these things can be missing, but on your hilt they are all there. Jens

11th December 2007, 09:38 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Fernando, Yes, i can agree to Jim's suggestion - although I would say late 18th, or maybe early 19th century. It would help if you could provide a close up of the blade where it shows something blank, as I am not quite sure waht it is. Nice tulwar anyway, and one of the few, which can be pin pointed. Jens

12th December 2007, 03:13 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you Jens. I will take note on the age. This is what i could capture, with day light and strong sun shining ... a frequent event over here, even diring winter . These blank parts could be because they were oiled or greased more than the rest, so they didn't oxide ... i don't really know I will anxiously wait for your coments. Thank you David. I don't think there's any steel activity like wootz or the like, in this blade Will these pictures define the situation to your eyes ? Please tell Fernando Attached Images

11th December 2007, 08:42 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thanks a lot for your comprehensive input, Jim. Besides your keen geographical positioning of this piece, i am pleased with your observation that it looks to be from the XVIII century, a vital element for my collecting tastes. An interesting particular abouth the handle dimensions, and this also replying to David's kind posting, is that in fact its actual length is not longer than the usual. It's the grip slimness, together with the wider angle of the droping quillons, that makes it having a different aspect and, why not, a bit more room for the fist, thus becoming more "user friendly". Thanks a lot for both your postings. Fernando

12th December 2007, 12:17 PM	#5
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Fernando, could you post a clear close-up picture of the blade ( the clean section). When I 'enhanced' and enlarged the blade picture....there seemed to be 'signs' of patterning, it could be an effect caused by the enlargement ... but ...it looks alittle like wootz. It might be worth doing a light etch on the 'clean' section ....just in case Kind Regards David