Dresden Armoury

Mick · 9th December 2007, 04:18 PM

Well folks, there is a fine example of gold work on a keris dressed in Sulawesi style. Without serious investigation of the photo,however, the keris does not look like a Bugis keris and the gold work looks like Javanese work.

VANDOO · 9th December 2007, 06:26 PM

THANKS FOR THE CHRISTMAS PRESENT

I THINK YOU DID QUITE WELL WITH THE PICTURES CONSIDERING ALL THE USUAL PROBLEMS TAKING THEM IN A MUSEUM THRU GLASS WITH LESS THAN PERFECT LIGHTING NOT TO MENTION DODGING THE GAURDS

I WILL MAKE IT A POINT TO PAY THE MUSEUM A VISIT WHEN I GET A CHANCE TO VISIT GERMANY AGAIN.

Tim Simmons · 9th December 2007, 08:51 PM

This is really beautiful metal work. I have worked on some commemorative battle scenes "The battle of Medicina 1945" not as fine as the chased steel shield but a continuation of the tradition no less. Oh and a Zulu battle scene on a small box. I could show them here if there is any interest?

Jim McDougall · 9th December 2007, 08:55 PM

Tatyana, thank you so much for sharing the wonderful treasures held in this museum! You did a remarkable job in capturing this in a most difficult photographic challenge as Vandoo has noted. What a very kind gift, especially for those of us who will not likely get to that apparantly quite impressive museum.
With the wide array of arms and armour displayed, it will be interesting to see what observations and comments will be responded concerning them from those with key knowledge on these fields of study. It's been a long time since the interesting thread that discussed Japanese arms and armour in Europe as you have mentioned (where did Radu disappear to anyway?

That was a terrific example of the confluence of European and ethnographic weapons and the trade dynamics that were far more complex than often realized.
Very nicely done Tatyana, and thank you again!!

Very best regards,
Jim

Chris Evans · 9th December 2007, 11:35 PM

Tatyana,

Thank you for those wonderful photos - Made my day!

Cheers
Chris

Tatyana Dianova · 10th December 2007, 02:18 PM

Yes Tim, of course you should share your work with us, best of all with some short historical explanation. It is always interesting to see the modern development of the arms metal work. The modern Russian smithes make very interesting and splendid arms nowadays, but I think it is a subject for the new thread.

ALEX · 10th December 2007, 05:57 PM

Fantastic pictures of Fantastic items. Thank you Tatyana!
I visited Oriental Arms room at the Wallace Collection, and the quality/rarity factor and effect are quite similar, IMHO. Picture taking is strictly prohibited there though.
If anyone has a chance to visit Wallace Collection in London - you won't regret it. Also, I'd recommend browsing through this site:
http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_visit_wallace.html
You may click on Albums links, and there are over 2000 pictures!
So much to see:-)
and how about this: http://www.myarmoury.com/features.html

Tim Simmons · 10th December 2007, 06:27 PM

Tatyana thank you for the invitation. I would not like to start a thread about my work, just not me. If there is something in any way relevant to a topic then I think that is okay, Antonio is often commenting on the preservation of skills.
This loving cup is not made with a feudal monarchs budget just an officers mess so all the artwork is basically done in the wax to save money. It is also quite a bit smaller. The only parts of the design I had influence on were the stand scene and the regemental emblem on the lid. I hope members will find it interesting. Can you give any information about the scene on the shield?

9th December 2007, 04:18 PM	#1
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Well folks, there is a fine example of gold work on a keris dressed in Sulawesi style. Without serious investigation of the photo,however, the keris does not look like a Bugis keris and the gold work looks like Javanese work. Last edited by Mick; 9th December 2007 at 04:35 PM.

9th December 2007, 08:55 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	Tatyana, thank you so much for sharing the wonderful treasures held in this museum! You did a remarkable job in capturing this in a most difficult photographic challenge as Vandoo has noted. What a very kind gift, especially for those of us who will not likely get to that apparantly quite impressive museum. With the wide array of arms and armour displayed, it will be interesting to see what observations and comments will be responded concerning them from those with key knowledge on these fields of study. It's been a long time since the interesting thread that discussed Japanese arms and armour in Europe as you have mentioned (where did Radu disappear to anyway? That was a terrific example of the confluence of European and ethnographic weapons and the trade dynamics that were far more complex than often realized. Very nicely done Tatyana, and thank you again!! Very best regards, Jim Last edited by Jim McDougall; 9th December 2007 at 10:01 PM.

10th December 2007, 06:27 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	Tatyana thank you for the invitation. I would not like to start a thread about my work, just not me. If there is something in any way relevant to a topic then I think that is okay, Antonio is often commenting on the preservation of skills. This loving cup is not made with a feudal monarchs budget just an officers mess so all the artwork is basically done in the wax to save money. It is also quite a bit smaller. The only parts of the design I had influence on were the stand scene and the regemental emblem on the lid. I hope members will find it interesting. Can you give any information about the scene on the shield? Last edited by Tim Simmons; 10th December 2007 at 06:48 PM.

9th December 2007, 06:26 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THANKS FOR THE CHRISTMAS PRESENT I THINK YOU DID QUITE WELL WITH THE PICTURES CONSIDERING ALL THE USUAL PROBLEMS TAKING THEM IN A MUSEUM THRU GLASS WITH LESS THAN PERFECT LIGHTING NOT TO MENTION DODGING THE GAURDS I WILL MAKE IT A POINT TO PAY THE MUSEUM A VISIT WHEN I GET A CHANCE TO VISIT GERMANY AGAIN.

9th December 2007, 08:51 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	This is really beautiful metal work. I have worked on some commemorative battle scenes "The battle of Medicina 1945" not as fine as the chased steel shield but a continuation of the tradition no less. Oh and a Zulu battle scene on a small box. I could show them here if there is any interest?

9th December 2007, 11:35 PM	#5
Chris Evans Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 685	Tatyana, Thank you for those wonderful photos - Made my day! Cheers Chris

10th December 2007, 02:18 PM	#6
Tatyana Dianova Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 736	Yes Tim, of course you should share your work with us, best of all with some short historical explanation. It is always interesting to see the modern development of the arms metal work. The modern Russian smithes make very interesting and splendid arms nowadays, but I think it is a subject for the new thread.

10th December 2007, 05:57 PM	#7
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Fantastic pictures of Fantastic items. Thank you Tatyana! I visited Oriental Arms room at the Wallace Collection, and the quality/rarity factor and effect are quite similar, IMHO. Picture taking is strictly prohibited there though. If anyone has a chance to visit Wallace Collection in London - you won't regret it. Also, I'd recommend browsing through this site: http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_visit_wallace.html You may click on Albums links, and there are over 2000 pictures! So much to see:-) and how about this: http://www.myarmoury.com/features.html