Origins of the term temple dha?

PUFF · 24th November 2007, 03:04 PM

PUFF · 24th November 2007, 03:11 PM

In case of you’re curious... those are not mine

IMO: They are not very old (19C-20C) and some of them has been retouched (skillful, though)

VANDOO · 24th November 2007, 03:55 PM

TO ME THE TERM TEMPLE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH SWORDS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE TEMPLE FOR SOME REASON OR ONES USED IN PROCESSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH RELIGIONS OR TEMPLES. SOME WERE NO DOUBT MADE FOR A SPECIFIC USE IN THE TEMPLE CEREMONYS. I HAVE READ ABOUT SWORDS BEING PRESENTED TO TEMPLES IN MANY ORIENTAL COUNTRYS, CHINA,JAPAN,ECT. PERHAPS THEY WERE PRESENTED TO MARK SOME HISTORIC EVENT OR TO ASK THE GODS FOR GOOD FORTUNE IN A WAR OR BATTLE OR AS THANKS FOR SUCESS, WEALTH AND LONG HEALTH. THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO MAKE AN OFFERING AT A TEMPLE AND ALSO MANY KINDS OF OFFERINGS FROM INSENCE, GOLD,FOOD,POEMS TO SWORDS.

I HAVE A LARGE EXAMPLE MADE IN RANGOON SAID TO HAVE BEEN USED IN PROCESSIONS AND HAVE SEEN OTHERS LIKE IT OVER THE YEARS. IT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD WEAPON DUE TO ITS SIZE AND POOR BALANCE BUT WOULD LOOK GOOD IN A PROCESSION. I SUSPECT THE FLASHY DHA MADE WITH THE INLAYED PICTURES ON THE BLADES AND LOW QUALITY SILVER OR WHITE METAL HANDLES AND SCABBARDS WERE MADE FOR DRESS OCCASIONS AND TO SELL TO TOURISTS. I HAVE SEEN A FEW ALSO THAT USED MORE EXPENSIVE FITTINGS AND DO NOT REALLY LOOK LIKE TOURIST PIECES SO THEY MAY BE PRESENTATION PIECES OR MADE FOR SOME OTHER IMPORTANT OCCASIONS. I SEEM TO REMBER A CUSTOM OF HANGING SMALLER SWORDS OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF YOUR HOUSE AT CERTAN TIMES AS A PROTECTIVE TAILSMAN.
WHAT A DRAG IT IS GETTING OLD! I KEEP LEARNING BUT SEEM TO BE FORGETTING FASTER THAN I LEARN THESE DAYS

Battara · 24th November 2007, 07:55 PM

Thank you Vandoo, very helpful. Also my understanding that the ones called "temple" pieces or priests pieces were small like these butm had figures carved in them, mostly from Myanmar (Burma).

paolo · 24th November 2007, 08:14 PM

Hi all,
This are the pics of my short dagger. The seller said it's from Burma. Your opinion?
Paolo

PUFF · 25th November 2007, 01:22 AM

IMO, the above piece come from Burman side. I do not know its use.

But it looks similar to Thai 's amulet knives. These following blades may also meet your "poor quality but not tourist" standard.

Example of "amulet" knives from central Thailand.
Made in mid 20C. The blades were blessed by Buddhist monk and generally used as spiritual object or protecting talisman by non-monk.

Battara · 25th November 2007, 08:59 PM

thanks Puff - I did not know that...

24th November 2007, 08:14 PM	#5
paolo Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 173	Thai or Burma ? Hi all, This are the pics of my short dagger. The seller said it's from Burma. Your opinion? Paolo Attached Images

25th November 2007, 01:22 AM	#6
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	IMO, the above piece come from Burman side. I do not know its use. But it looks similar to Thai 's amulet knives. These following blades may also meet your "poor quality but not tourist" standard. Example of "amulet" knives from central Thailand. Made in mid 20C. The blades were blessed by Buddhist monk and generally used as spiritual object or protecting talisman by non-monk. Last edited by PUFF; 26th November 2007 at 12:31 AM.

24th November 2007, 03:04 PM	#1
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224

24th November 2007, 03:11 PM	#2
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	In case of you’re curious... those are not mine IMO: They are not very old (19C-20C) and some of them has been retouched (skillful, though)

24th November 2007, 03:55 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	TO ME THE TERM TEMPLE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH SWORDS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE TEMPLE FOR SOME REASON OR ONES USED IN PROCESSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH RELIGIONS OR TEMPLES. SOME WERE NO DOUBT MADE FOR A SPECIFIC USE IN THE TEMPLE CEREMONYS. I HAVE READ ABOUT SWORDS BEING PRESENTED TO TEMPLES IN MANY ORIENTAL COUNTRYS, CHINA,JAPAN,ECT. PERHAPS THEY WERE PRESENTED TO MARK SOME HISTORIC EVENT OR TO ASK THE GODS FOR GOOD FORTUNE IN A WAR OR BATTLE OR AS THANKS FOR SUCESS, WEALTH AND LONG HEALTH. THERE ARE MANY REASONS TO MAKE AN OFFERING AT A TEMPLE AND ALSO MANY KINDS OF OFFERINGS FROM INSENCE, GOLD,FOOD,POEMS TO SWORDS. I HAVE A LARGE EXAMPLE MADE IN RANGOON SAID TO HAVE BEEN USED IN PROCESSIONS AND HAVE SEEN OTHERS LIKE IT OVER THE YEARS. IT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD WEAPON DUE TO ITS SIZE AND POOR BALANCE BUT WOULD LOOK GOOD IN A PROCESSION. I SUSPECT THE FLASHY DHA MADE WITH THE INLAYED PICTURES ON THE BLADES AND LOW QUALITY SILVER OR WHITE METAL HANDLES AND SCABBARDS WERE MADE FOR DRESS OCCASIONS AND TO SELL TO TOURISTS. I HAVE SEEN A FEW ALSO THAT USED MORE EXPENSIVE FITTINGS AND DO NOT REALLY LOOK LIKE TOURIST PIECES SO THEY MAY BE PRESENTATION PIECES OR MADE FOR SOME OTHER IMPORTANT OCCASIONS. I SEEM TO REMBER A CUSTOM OF HANGING SMALLER SWORDS OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF YOUR HOUSE AT CERTAN TIMES AS A PROTECTIVE TAILSMAN. WHAT A DRAG IT IS GETTING OLD! I KEEP LEARNING BUT SEEM TO BE FORGETTING FASTER THAN I LEARN THESE DAYS

24th November 2007, 07:55 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Thank you Vandoo, very helpful. Also my understanding that the ones called "temple" pieces or priests pieces were small like these butm had figures carved in them, mostly from Myanmar (Burma).

25th November 2007, 08:59 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	thanks Puff - I did not know that...