Strange "zulfikar" dagger

Dom · 8th November 2007, 07:54 PM

Tks every body
to have confirmed my deep feeling who prevent me to buy a "junk" as said "ward"

tks also to have guide me through old post,
I wasn't know them

I was remember such about "zulfikar sword" none about "dagger"
(I provided here a picture issued from an old bible, showing the Holy Prophet Ali with a "zulfikar sword",
but when I visited Damascus museum in Syria,
I was so disappointed because the book was unfortunately in exhibition in abroad)

Regards

à +

Dom

ward · 9th November 2007, 02:05 AM

I should not answer questions in the morning I get blunter than I mean. That piece is 20th century meant for the tourist trade and of poor quality. I have seen a lot of these over the years

DaveA · 9th November 2007, 04:40 AM

I have heard of this unusual knife before and was intrigued to see one on eBay, enough so to bid modestly. Reading this thread I am pleased with losing. But I wonder, if it is tourist junk (and I have no reason not to believe our esteemed forum colleagues) then how come we have not seen more of them on eBay? One good heuristic I use to spot fakes (not being an expert) is to note how many of the items (reasonably similar items) appear in any given month or so on eBay. This is the only zulfikar I've noted in several years of collecting. Given that this went for so much money, there is clearly a demand, even for junk!

Lew · 9th November 2007, 06:23 PM

I have seen a few of these over the last few years on ebay and they all seem to be of the same quality. Funny I have never seen a real old one say with a wootz or pattern welded blade so I think these are just some old type of Persian fantasy dagger that may not have a true historical ancestor.

Lew

ward · 9th November 2007, 10:37 PM

these fall in the same class as the scissor katar. They are just not practical as weapons. Weapon however exotic the shape have to be functional in battle

BBJW · 9th November 2007, 11:26 PM

I have been highly suspicious of this seller for quite some time.

bbjw

Battara · 10th November 2007, 05:46 PM

Acutually I have seen a lot of these over the years on eBay, gun and knife shows, other sites, etc.

9th November 2007, 04:40 AM	#3
DaveA Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 416	Happy that I lost the auction! I have heard of this unusual knife before and was intrigued to see one on eBay, enough so to bid modestly. Reading this thread I am pleased with losing. But I wonder, if it is tourist junk (and I have no reason not to believe our esteemed forum colleagues) then how come we have not seen more of them on eBay? One good heuristic I use to spot fakes (not being an expert) is to note how many of the items (reasonably similar items) appear in any given month or so on eBay. This is the only zulfikar I've noted in several years of collecting. Given that this went for so much money, there is clearly a demand, even for junk!

8th November 2007, 07:54 PM	#1
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Tks every body to have confirmed my deep feeling who prevent me to buy a "junk" as said "ward" tks also to have guide me through old post, I wasn't know them I was remember such about "zulfikar sword" none about "dagger" (I provided here a picture issued from an old bible, showing the Holy Prophet Ali with a "zulfikar sword", but when I visited Damascus museum in Syria, I was so disappointed because the book was unfortunately in exhibition in abroad) Regards à + Dom

9th November 2007, 02:05 AM	#2
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	I should not answer questions in the morning I get blunter than I mean. That piece is 20th century meant for the tourist trade and of poor quality. I have seen a lot of these over the years

9th November 2007, 06:23 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	I have seen a few of these over the last few years on ebay and they all seem to be of the same quality. Funny I have never seen a real old one say with a wootz or pattern welded blade so I think these are just some old type of Persian fantasy dagger that may not have a true historical ancestor. Lew

9th November 2007, 10:37 PM	#5
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	these fall in the same class as the scissor katar. They are just not practical as weapons. Weapon however exotic the shape have to be functional in battle

9th November 2007, 11:26 PM	#6
BBJW Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho, USA Posts: 228	I have been highly suspicious of this seller for quite some time. bbjw

10th November 2007, 05:46 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Acutually I have seen a lot of these over the years on eBay, gun and knife shows, other sites, etc.