HEMBRUG KLEWANG (HUMBREG)

Arny · 24th October 2007, 10:55 PM

Thanks again Henk. The more I learn about these klewangs, the more I realize how little I do know. Much appreciated.

As to your question Henk, I am of Dutch background in that both parents were born in Holland. They immigrated to Canada in 1951 and my father left his sword and kris daggers in Holland at that time. He got them back 20 years later and was actually carrying them under his arm through the Toronto airport. That would not happen today.
I am born in Canada but speak Dutch reasonably well, although I can't write or read it very well.

A.

kronckew · 25th October 2007, 05:58 PM

i have one of the earlier solingen ones that was the model for the rest. we've discussed these at length over the last year & here is the most recent link, this has llinks to earlier discussions. (edited: this is the same link as in post above, i shoulda looked before i leaped

)

a solingen made dutch klewang:

i've seen a couple of the japanese captured ones on ebay recently, on those they cut them down & removed most of the hand guard leaving a simple cross guard remnant. i also saw one the other day that had the guard removed completely and the scabbard was a new silver mounted traditional indonesian klewang type. the handgrip with the distinctive rivets was still there tho. i bid on it but it went for about twice what i could afford.

kronckew · 25th October 2007, 08:06 PM

it is one of my earliest sword purchases and still one of my most favourite swords, it still has most of it's original dark blued finish on the 62.5 cm blade, except where it has worn a bit from inserting it in the scabbard, but the grind lines are as crisp as the day it was made, and it's as sharp as a razor still with no nicks, gouges or rust damage.

the scabbard is in excellent shape as well, no wear or damage, well oiled - the small button-holed strap has a slight amt. of age cracking.

the guard is rust browned with a nice dark even patina, coated in dried varnish-like oil and the wooden scales are also in excellent shape with only a couple of dents. some evidence of stabilised rust under the scales, but it looks much the same as i'd expect it looked when it was first issued. there is some slight pitting near the hilt around the makers mark area, but none on the rest. it sits next to my bed justincase something (besides the dogs) goes bump in the night... the only thing i'm missing is the frog to hang it from a belt.

Mark · 25th October 2007, 10:31 PM

It turns out that one of the klewang that started this thread is still on sale. There is a lot of good discussion here, though, so I edited out anything about the auction piece, to preserve the rest.

Please continue this interesting discussion (just don't talk about that other klewang that is on auction).

Arny · 26th October 2007, 02:09 AM

Well gentlemen, I just acquired 2 Klewangs today, one is an authentic HEMBRUG and the other one is unmarked. Unfortunately, no scabbard for either of them. So if anyone has a scabbard or 2 that will fit on a Klewang or a US M1941 / M1917 CUTLASS please let me know.

Arny

Arny · 26th October 2007, 02:13 AM

Mark, the auction on that Klewang that got this discussion going, has ended.

Arny

Mark · 26th October 2007, 02:40 PM

OK. Was it ended by a purchase? I had understood that it has been relisted several times. If it's been sold, there is no problem with taking up the discussion again. I have to consider whether putting back the posts (in whole or in part) is appropriate, though.

25th October 2007, 10:31 PM	#4
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	FYI It turns out that one of the klewang that started this thread is still on sale. There is a lot of good discussion here, though, so I edited out anything about the auction piece, to preserve the rest. Please continue this interesting discussion (just don't talk about that other klewang that is on auction).

24th October 2007, 10:55 PM	#1
Arny Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 17	Thanks again Henk. The more I learn about these klewangs, the more I realize how little I do know. Much appreciated. As to your question Henk, I am of Dutch background in that both parents were born in Holland. They immigrated to Canada in 1951 and my father left his sword and kris daggers in Holland at that time. He got them back 20 years later and was actually carrying them under his arm through the Toronto airport. That would not happen today. I am born in Canada but speak Dutch reasonably well, although I can't write or read it very well. A.

25th October 2007, 05:58 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,225	i have one of the earlier solingen ones that was the model for the rest. we've discussed these at length over the last year & here is the most recent link, this has llinks to earlier discussions. (edited: this is the same link as in post above, i shoulda looked before i leaped ) a solingen made dutch klewang: i've seen a couple of the japanese captured ones on ebay recently, on those they cut them down & removed most of the hand guard leaving a simple cross guard remnant. i also saw one the other day that had the guard removed completely and the scabbard was a new silver mounted traditional indonesian klewang type. the handgrip with the distinctive rivets was still there tho. i bid on it but it went for about twice what i could afford.

25th October 2007, 08:06 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,225	it is one of my earliest sword purchases and still one of my most favourite swords, it still has most of it's original dark blued finish on the 62.5 cm blade, except where it has worn a bit from inserting it in the scabbard, but the grind lines are as crisp as the day it was made, and it's as sharp as a razor still with no nicks, gouges or rust damage. the scabbard is in excellent shape as well, no wear or damage, well oiled - the small button-holed strap has a slight amt. of age cracking. the guard is rust browned with a nice dark even patina, coated in dried varnish-like oil and the wooden scales are also in excellent shape with only a couple of dents. some evidence of stabilised rust under the scales, but it looks much the same as i'd expect it looked when it was first issued. there is some slight pitting near the hilt around the makers mark area, but none on the rest. it sits next to my bed justincase something (besides the dogs) goes bump in the night... the only thing i'm missing is the frog to hang it from a belt.

26th October 2007, 02:09 AM	#5
Arny Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 17	Well gentlemen, I just acquired 2 Klewangs today, one is an authentic HEMBRUG and the other one is unmarked. Unfortunately, no scabbard for either of them. So if anyone has a scabbard or 2 that will fit on a Klewang or a US M1941 / M1917 CUTLASS please let me know. Arny

26th October 2007, 02:13 AM	#6
Arny Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 17	Mark, the auction on that Klewang that got this discussion going, has ended. Arny

26th October 2007, 02:40 PM	#7
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	OK. Was it ended by a purchase? I had understood that it has been relisted several times. If it's been sold, there is no problem with taking up the discussion again. I have to consider whether putting back the posts (in whole or in part) is appropriate, though.