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Old 24th October 2007, 12:56 AM   #1
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That sure is a nice Nyabor, huh VVV???!!!
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Old 24th October 2007, 09:52 PM   #2
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That sure is a nice Nyabor, huh VVV???!!!
And great provenance as well.

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Old 10th May 2019, 10:18 PM   #3
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I have to dig up this thread, yesterday night I found by a eBay search this sword of the same type, see the seller pictures. The seller accepted my offer! Now I wonder if there are any new insights about this swords. The scabbard shows like some others the snake, the coins (some are missing), the bucket man but also a centipede but the scabbard isn't so much longer as the blade. And when the pictures don't feint it shows some good age overall.
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Old 10th May 2019, 10:30 PM   #4
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Forget to mention, the seller stated that the coins are dated from 1930 upwards.
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Old 11th May 2019, 06:33 AM   #5
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Hi Detlef:

Very interesting presentation of this sword type and yours adds some slight variations from the others but definitely in the same family. What nationality are the coins?

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Old 11th May 2019, 07:16 AM   #6
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Very interesting presentation of this sword type and yours adds some slight variations from the others but definitely in the same family. What nationality are the coins?
Hi Ian,

I don't know from which nationality the coins, I don't have it in my my hands now and the seller don't stated something more as: “GOOD ORNATE WOODEN SCABBARD WITH DUTCH COIN INLAY DATED 1930- SOME COINS ARE MISSING, APPEARS TO BE MISSING PART OF THE HANDLE, THE EDGE OF THE BLADE HAS BEEN MISTREATED, SMALLER BLADE AT BOTTOM IS FIXED BUT LOOSE AND RATTLES” but soon as it arrives at it's destination I will be able to tell more. I guess that this are West Indie coins.

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Old 11th May 2019, 11:46 PM   #7
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Cricket anyone?
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Hullo Detlef,

It's a Hivan/Iban Isaw; looks like a more "recent" model; thickness of blade at the tang for such a model would be <1cm (about half that of the "older" model).

Ref. item #7: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=njaboer

Hope it helps.
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It's a Hivan/Iban Isaw; looks like a more "recent" model; thickness of blade at the tang for such a model would be <1cm (about half that of the "older" model).

Ref. item #7: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=njaboer

Hope it helps.

Thank you Amuk! So it's like stated from Michael an Iban sword. May I ask you from where you get the term "Isaw" for this type of swords? That it is more recent would also be confirmed by the date from the coins. Will post the thickness of the blade near the handle soon as it has arrived at it's destination. Thank you again!

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Old 14th May 2019, 06:48 AM   #10
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Thank you Amuk! So it's like stated from Michael an Iban sword. May I ask you from where you get the term "Isaw" for this type of swords? That it is more recent would also be confirmed by the date from the coins. Will post the thickness of the blade near the handle soon as it has arrived at it's destination. Thank you again!

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YW Detlef ..... My source is the people who used them.
As for the coins (I used to be a passionate numismatist in a previous life), they appear to be (can't be too sure from the photo) pre-RepublikIndonesia coins(see attached example). Please judge for yourself.

BTW ..... the obverse of the example states : Netherlands Indies while the reverse side has two scripts, Soenda (outer) and Djawi (inner). Both state: 1/10 roepiah.(I'm a bit rusty on this, so please excuse any mistake).

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Old 15th May 2019, 11:31 AM   #11
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YW Detlef ..... My source is the people who used them.
As for the coins (I used to be a passionate numismatist in a previous life), they appear to be (can't be too sure from the photo) pre-RepublikIndonesia coins(see attached example). Please judge for yourself.

BTW ..... the obverse of the example states : Netherlands Indies while the reverse side has two scripts, Soenda (outer) and Djawi (inner). Both state: 1/10 roepiah.(I'm a bit rusty on this, so please excuse any mistake).
Thank you again Amuk,

I really think that you are very correct by all observations. The sword I've posted seems indeed from very recent manufacture and I think that the coins are similar to the one you have shown, I know this coins from own handling many times before.
The blade is 0,25 Inch (0,6 cm) thick near the handle!
And thank you again for proving a "name" for this type of swords. Do you know also which use was given to this swords?

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Old 12th June 2019, 11:12 PM   #12
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YW Detlef As for the coins (I used to be a passionate numismatist in a previous life), they appear to be (can't be too sure from the photo) pre-RepublikIndonesia coins(see attached example). Please judge for yourself.

BTW ..... the obverse of the example states : Netherlands Indies while the reverse side has two scripts, Soenda (outer) and Djawi (inner). Both state: 1/10 roepiah.(I'm a bit rusty on this, so please excuse any mistake).
Yes, you are correct regarding the coins, here some pictures from the attached coins.
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