Between Solo and Yogya

David · 21st September 2007, 03:15 AM

It has always been the intention that this forum would be open to the discussion of tombak as well as keris. Therefore no permission is necessary for anyone to open a thread about tombak.

A. G. Maisey · 21st September 2007, 03:21 AM

Thanks for your clarification, David.

I did not know that---or if I once did know it, I'd forgotten.

Where is the dividing line?

Do pedang fall outside the basket?

Wedung?

David · 21st September 2007, 01:29 PM

hmmm, good question. I had thought Rick laid it out in the opening posts, but going back i see he did not. I know we spoke privately about tombaks being topical to this forum, but i will defer to Rick on where, exactly, the line should be drawn on other weapons.

Rick · 21st September 2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by David

hmmm, good question. I had thought Rick laid it out in the opening posts, but going back i see he did not. I know we spoke privately about tombaks being topical to this forum, but i will defer to Rick on where, exactly, the line should be drawn on other weapons.

Tombaks are on topic here.
I thought that had been laid out too.

Oh well, I'm certainly no pinnacle of perfection my friends .

The inclusion of other items would tend to distract from our purpose here; plus we'd become just another ethnographic forum .

David · 22nd September 2007, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

The inclusion of other items would tend to distract from our purpose here; plus we'd become just another ethnographic forum .

Well...we certainly don't want that to happen!

A. G. Maisey · 23rd September 2007, 11:41 PM

Thank you gentlemen. I think I have a clear understanding now---I might not have in 6 months time, but at the moment I'm OK.

I had in my mind that we were more or less exclusively keris, that's really the whole reason for our being, but the problem is that lines get a bit blurred sometimes.

Keris and tombak are certainly spiritual brothers, but then keris and some pedang are physical brothers---maybe even spiritual as well.For instance I have pedang with kembang kacang and sogokan, and with luk. Then there are those Bali/Lombok things---what are they called?---ligan. Is this a pedang that is keris-like, or a keris that is pedang-like? What about Lombok cundrik? Blumbangan and sogokan.

Sorry fellers, it gets hard for me. But keris + tombak sounds good for the moment.

21st September 2007, 03:15 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,209	It has always been the intention that this forum would be open to the discussion of tombak as well as keris. Therefore no permission is necessary for anyone to open a thread about tombak.

21st September 2007, 03:21 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,988	Thanks for your clarification, David. I did not know that---or if I once did know it, I'd forgotten. Where is the dividing line? Do pedang fall outside the basket? Wedung?

21st September 2007, 01:29 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,209	hmmm, good question. I had thought Rick laid it out in the opening posts, but going back i see he did not. I know we spoke privately about tombaks being topical to this forum, but i will defer to Rick on where, exactly, the line should be drawn on other weapons.

23rd September 2007, 11:41 PM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,988	Thank you gentlemen. I think I have a clear understanding now---I might not have in 6 months time, but at the moment I'm OK. I had in my mind that we were more or less exclusively keris, that's really the whole reason for our being, but the problem is that lines get a bit blurred sometimes. Keris and tombak are certainly spiritual brothers, but then keris and some pedang are physical brothers---maybe even spiritual as well.For instance I have pedang with kembang kacang and sogokan, and with luk. Then there are those Bali/Lombok things---what are they called?---ligan. Is this a pedang that is keris-like, or a keris that is pedang-like? What about Lombok cundrik? Blumbangan and sogokan. Sorry fellers, it gets hard for me. But keris + tombak sounds good for the moment.