T.O.M.BA.K

simatua · 20th September 2007, 05:59 PM

The Tombak you presented has a nice shiny pamor.

Can you (or anybody else) tell more about this pamor (material)
Is this one made with nikkel?
and the estimated age of this tombak?

It seems to have reflection pamor as well if i am not wrong.

gr
martin

A. G. Maisey · 20th September 2007, 11:53 PM

Pak Usmen, is it possible for you to provide a photo of the metuk at 90 degrees?

This is pretty important, because with tombak the metuk is one of the prime indicators.

Is this pamor nginden?

If so, could you provide a photo looking down the length of the blade towards the point, so that we can see the nginden pattern?

Thanks.

Raden Usman Djogja · 21st September 2007, 12:23 PM

Pak Alan and kerislovers,

I am afraid that I cannot provide images of methuk at 90 degrees and the length of the blade toward the point at this moment. I dont bring that tombak here. It is on the top of 3.25m landeyan walikukun (spear made from walikukun wood/tree) in my home in Jogja now. I will check whether there is other tombaks which are now here in Africa having the same type of methuk as I uploaded above.

Why do you think methuk is important for tombak, Pak Alan? as I saw, there were 2 types of methuk: iras ( unseparately with blade?/english please

) and ordinary (separately with blade). Sometimes the ordinary methuk was changed. So the kind of steel of blade was different from the kind of steel of methuk. Please try to watch carefuly the tiny image of tombak Kanjeng Kiai Ageng Plered in Yogyakarta Heritage book (page so and so, when it was cleaned personally by the Sultan HBX). I just had a curiosity that its methuk steel was different from its blade steel. So, please give enlightment of the importance of methuk based on your views. I got the story of the important of methuk/gonjo but from the spirit point of view. not quite important to be shared in this thread.

I feel there is chatoyant "gedhagan" in that pamor. Pak Alan, what kind of pamor motive do you think?

Does anyone know the grand pusakas' names (especially tombaks) of 4 castles in Jawa: Kasultanan, Kasunanan, Pakualaman and Mangkunegaran?

warm salam,

Usmen

20th September 2007, 05:59 PM	#1
simatua Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 69	Question for Usman The Tombak you presented has a nice shiny pamor. Can you (or anybody else) tell more about this pamor (material) Is this one made with nikkel? and the estimated age of this tombak? It seems to have reflection pamor as well if i am not wrong. gr martin

20th September 2007, 11:53 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Pak Usmen, is it possible for you to provide a photo of the metuk at 90 degrees? This is pretty important, because with tombak the metuk is one of the prime indicators. Is this pamor nginden? If so, could you provide a photo looking down the length of the blade towards the point, so that we can see the nginden pattern? Thanks.

21st September 2007, 12:23 PM	#3
Raden Usman Djogja Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 199	Pak Alan and kerislovers, I am afraid that I cannot provide images of methuk at 90 degrees and the length of the blade toward the point at this moment. I dont bring that tombak here. It is on the top of 3.25m landeyan walikukun (spear made from walikukun wood/tree) in my home in Jogja now. I will check whether there is other tombaks which are now here in Africa having the same type of methuk as I uploaded above. Why do you think methuk is important for tombak, Pak Alan? as I saw, there were 2 types of methuk: iras ( unseparately with blade?/english please ) and ordinary (separately with blade). Sometimes the ordinary methuk was changed. So the kind of steel of blade was different from the kind of steel of methuk. Please try to watch carefuly the tiny image of tombak Kanjeng Kiai Ageng Plered in Yogyakarta Heritage book (page so and so, when it was cleaned personally by the Sultan HBX). I just had a curiosity that its methuk steel was different from its blade steel. So, please give enlightment of the importance of methuk based on your views. I got the story of the important of methuk/gonjo but from the spirit point of view. not quite important to be shared in this thread. I feel there is chatoyant "gedhagan" in that pamor. Pak Alan, what kind of pamor motive do you think? Does anyone know the grand pusakas' names (especially tombaks) of 4 castles in Jawa: Kasultanan, Kasunanan, Pakualaman and Mangkunegaran? warm salam, Usmen