Kilij and Yataghan: overcleaned?

ariel · 25th August 2007, 06:40 PM

Absolutely gorgeous Yataghan and ordinary but adequate Pala ( Kilij):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=019
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=019
Usually, these types of blades come with rather profuse inscriptions; there are none here. Do you think the blades were overcleaned?
Also, the Damascus pattern of the Yataghan blade: we discussed "accidental" damascus pattern in regard to other blades.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5016
The bottom-line conclusion was that some blades were not meant to be etched ...
Do you think this is what happened here?

katana · 25th August 2007, 08:45 PM

The patterning on the Kilij looks 'strange' and seems to have 'raised' contours, including some 'longitudinal lines '
Parts of the blade appear 'laminated'

Mixed billets on one blade

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Battara · 25th August 2007, 08:52 PM

I'm thinking the raised edges are due to the etching.

Also it is possible that the blades were cleaned to the point of taking everything off to make the blades shiney - a Victorian and American collectors tendency. Later the dealer may have had what was left of the blades re-etched.

25th August 2007, 06:40 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Kilij and Yataghan: overcleaned? Absolutely gorgeous Yataghan and ordinary but adequate Pala ( Kilij): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=019 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=019 Usually, these types of blades come with rather profuse inscriptions; there are none here. Do you think the blades were overcleaned? Also, the Damascus pattern of the Yataghan blade: we discussed "accidental" damascus pattern in regard to other blades. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5016 The bottom-line conclusion was that some blades were not meant to be etched ... Do you think this is what happened here?

25th August 2007, 08:45 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	The patterning on the Kilij looks 'strange' and seems to have 'raised' contours, including some 'longitudinal lines ' Parts of the blade appear 'laminated' Mixed billets on one blade ,,,,,,,, Attached Images

25th August 2007, 08:52 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	I'm thinking the raised edges are due to the etching. Also it is possible that the blades were cleaned to the point of taking everything off to make the blades shiney - a Victorian and American collectors tendency. Later the dealer may have had what was left of the blades re-etched.