Kard?

Gary Varner · 21st August 2007, 09:23 PM

Like you, Jim, I am very interested in the markings on the blade and what significance they may hold. Are they the makers mark, totemic, etc? The red mark is very interesting too and I frankly don't know how they applied the color to the blade. If anyone has any information or observations on the marks I would be very interested in them. As a folklorist I am very interested in symbology and the more I get into ethnographic weapons the more I see that symbols have been part of the history of bladed weapons throughout history.

Thanks,

Gary

kronckew · 21st August 2007, 10:39 PM

i have a choora whose blade is decorated with a number of circles surrounded by dots, there are six brass inlaid circles, circumscribed by an engraved circle in the surrounding steel then punched dots around them each side. the spine has six engraved circles surrounded by dots, as well as two groups of six dots surrounded by a ring of similar dots. the brass trim spine extension on the grip bolster has a pattern of 4 dots surrounded by a circle surrounded by dots, as well as the remainder being inscribed with a dozen dots surrounded by a circle surrounded by distinct petals.

common motif? floral symbols? besides the inscribed/inlayed ones, there are a number of etched plantlike patterns, blobs, quattrefoils, surrounded by etched dots and petal like structures which are not clear in the photos (and also islamic etched inscriptions in arabic lettering)

Gary Varner · 21st August 2007, 11:44 PM

An amazing blade! It would appear that perhaps these decorative motifs are some of those inherent in the psyche and may no longer have the meaning that was originally associated with them since they appear across such a wide geographic range. Of course trade and intellectual exchange probably has a lot to do with the distributione of symbols too and their absorbtion in different cultures.

21st August 2007, 09:23 PM	#1
Gary Varner Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 18	Like you, Jim, I am very interested in the markings on the blade and what significance they may hold. Are they the makers mark, totemic, etc? The red mark is very interesting too and I frankly don't know how they applied the color to the blade. If anyone has any information or observations on the marks I would be very interested in them. As a folklorist I am very interested in symbology and the more I get into ethnographic weapons the more I see that symbols have been part of the history of bladed weapons throughout history. Thanks, Gary

21st August 2007, 10:39 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	i have a choora whose blade is decorated with a number of circles surrounded by dots, there are six brass inlaid circles, circumscribed by an engraved circle in the surrounding steel then punched dots around them each side. the spine has six engraved circles surrounded by dots, as well as two groups of six dots surrounded by a ring of similar dots. the brass trim spine extension on the grip bolster has a pattern of 4 dots surrounded by a circle surrounded by dots, as well as the remainder being inscribed with a dozen dots surrounded by a circle surrounded by distinct petals. common motif? floral symbols? besides the inscribed/inlayed ones, there are a number of etched plantlike patterns, blobs, quattrefoils, surrounded by etched dots and petal like structures which are not clear in the photos (and also islamic etched inscriptions in arabic lettering)

21st August 2007, 11:44 PM	#3
Gary Varner Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 18	An amazing blade! It would appear that perhaps these decorative motifs are some of those inherent in the psyche and may no longer have the meaning that was originally associated with them since they appear across such a wide geographic range. Of course trade and intellectual exchange probably has a lot to do with the distributione of symbols too and their absorbtion in different cultures.