A bit unusual keris

rahman · 9th March 2005, 01:28 PM

Sorry, this is off-topic.

Blu - that 'x' on the ganja of your warrior keris -- could it the empu's signature. I read somewhere that sometimes, when an empu is satisfied with a piece of his work, he would leave behind his mark. Could this be one?

I have a riau keris that has a curious mark on its ganja, not an 'x'.

rasdan · 10th March 2005, 12:12 PM

Hi Blu,

Thanks for clearing up the point. However Frey in his book seperated sort of a Minang keris as Sumatra-Bugis keris. U know.. thick sampir, high pointed tip of sampir. Other than that he stated as Sulawesi kerisses. I'll try to scan the page to ease our reference.

DAHenkel · 10th March 2005, 02:39 PM

Rasdan, Blu is spot on with the Sulawesi provenance. Compare with this example below - note especially the lack of a "picitan" on the side of the sampir but also just the overall shape. You will never see a Straits Bugis keris like this.

DAHenkel · 10th March 2005, 02:41 PM

Rasdan, Blu is spot on with the Sulawesi provenance. Compare with this example below - note especially the lack of a "picitan" on the side of the sampir but also just the overall shape. You may see Sulawesi keris that look very close to a Straits Bugis keris but you will never see a Straits Bugis keris like this.

rasdan · 11th March 2005, 02:40 AM

Thanks Dave. I think i'll start a new thread as soon as possible regarding this topic.

10th March 2005, 02:41 PM	#4
DAHenkel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125	Rasdan, Blu is spot on with the Sulawesi provenance. Compare with this example below - note especially the lack of a "picitan" on the side of the sampir but also just the overall shape. You may see Sulawesi keris that look very close to a Straits Bugis keris but you will never see a Straits Bugis keris like this. Attached Images

9th March 2005, 01:28 PM	#1
rahman Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 84	Sorry, this is off-topic. Blu - that 'x' on the ganja of your warrior keris -- could it the empu's signature. I read somewhere that sometimes, when an empu is satisfied with a piece of his work, he would leave behind his mark. Could this be one? I have a riau keris that has a curious mark on its ganja, not an 'x'.

10th March 2005, 12:12 PM	#2
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 368	Hi Blu, Thanks for clearing up the point. However Frey in his book seperated sort of a Minang keris as Sumatra-Bugis keris. U know.. thick sampir, high pointed tip of sampir. Other than that he stated as Sulawesi kerisses. I'll try to scan the page to ease our reference.

10th March 2005, 02:39 PM	#3
DAHenkel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 125	Rasdan, Blu is spot on with the Sulawesi provenance. Compare with this example below - note especially the lack of a "picitan" on the side of the sampir but also just the overall shape. You will never see a Straits Bugis keris like this.

11th March 2005, 02:40 AM	#5
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 368	Thanks Dave. I think i'll start a new thread as soon as possible regarding this topic.