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Old 8th March 2005, 05:17 PM   #1
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The blade is 13.5" (34.3 cm) and the overall length is approximately 17.75" (45 cm). While it has a broad blade and some proportional similarity in the gangya area, I don't believe it is Moro. The blade is substantial and sharp and has some age. I haven't had the chance to etch it, but am optimistic.

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Old 9th March 2005, 02:57 AM   #2
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I don't think this is a Moro piece. I would lean heavily in favour or Malay or Sumatran. At first glance, it could be a straight variant of Keris Melela, with those wide fullers. I think the Javanese style ukiran is all wrong. Why not try and fix it with a kerdas type hulu and we'll take another look at it again
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Old 9th March 2005, 05:45 AM   #3
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Default Looks a Keris Malela to me too.

From a thread in the archives (Paul's collection), keris 14 looks identical, except for some obvious difference at the base of blade.

http://pachome1.pacific.net.sg/~pfrandes/

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Old 9th March 2005, 08:10 AM   #4
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Yep, exactly what I was thinking of John. But take a close look at mmontoro's keris and compare it with Paul's. There's no picetan and sogokan.
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Old 9th March 2005, 09:01 AM   #5
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I think mmontoro's keris does have a picitan and the sogokan runs from the so-soran to the tip.
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Old 9th March 2005, 12:49 PM   #6
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Just when we think we have seen everything, something weird pops up. I have a feeling this is a Riau Bugis keris blade, or a S. Malay Bugis keris blade. Its different in aesthetics from the N Malay blades which tend towards "long and lanky" forms (like Paul's keris). The fullers are unusual...
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Old 9th March 2005, 01:20 PM   #7
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Take another look at Paul's keris -- it has a pinggang (waist). It tapers in and then flares out. There's a certain grace to it, as in most other keris.

That's what threw me off with mmontoro's keris. It flares out suddenly (almost like a sundang). This is either a hybrid or someone's bad idea of a copycat sundang. But at 13.5ins, it's too short to be sundang.
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