Photgraphy Question regarding Ivory Kris

David · 29th July 2007, 08:51 PM

OK Ron, i'm intrigue. You really have to let me have a crack at this baby before winter. I know you are busy with work, but how about next weekend?

In the meantime, can you give me a few technical details.
So, you shot this on a tripod, right? What were the camera settings, i.e. ISO, shutter speed and aperture? What is the light source and at what time of day?
So if i am able to take a sharp picture of this kris does that mean it wants to come live with me?

LabanTayo · 29th July 2007, 11:18 PM

Spunjer,
I have an offer you can't refuse for the anting-anting kris.
Remember the Katipunan flag?

zelbone · 30th July 2007, 02:32 AM

Spunger,
Sorry I've been AWOL here. I recognize that kris of yours...I know it well. PM, email, or text me on my Philippine cell# and we can discuss that kris of yours. There's some bad karma associated with your kris and unfortunately I can't discuss this on a public forum.

Ingat 'tol,

Z

Spunjer · 30th July 2007, 04:31 AM

david,

definitely would love to get with you sooner, but we're going on vacation the next couple weeks. will be back on the 11th. but yeah, we definitely need to get ASAP! would like to have a non biased opinion on this...

labantayo,

lol, that's a very tempting offer, but i really like to enjoy this kris for awhile... but then again, i've seen some of your toys, and now that i got your attention... you got pm...

zel,

wassup bro! long time no hear! noticed you haven't been active here for awhile. the original owner mentioned he talked to another filipino prior to selling this sword to me and he did mentioned about the 'bad karma' stuff the filipino mentioned. so was that you? i try to be level headed, but now it looks like i'm starting to get the creeps, lol.
anywho, last time we corresponded you mentioned about you were in the verge of finalizing your book, Aming Sundang (Our Sword). i know you were trying to iron out some differences with ateneo de davao press. how's everthing coming along on that? would the book be available here in the states, or would that just gonna be released in the philippines? inquiry mind wanna know...
email me, brad:
spiderguard77@yahoo.com
pm's on the way as well...

Bill M · 30th July 2007, 12:52 PM

Though this is more often a concern for Javanese and Balinese keris, I would suspect that Moro kris might also move on their own. This could account for the blurry pictures.

I would suggest a large cover with substantial Hebew and Javanese power symbols (since you mention SOLOman) to be sure that this kris does not carry out nocturnal missions. Be careful!

zelbone · 30th July 2007, 03:26 PM

Spunger,
Yo bro! Email has been sent in regards to that kris of yours. If you find it too cryptic and want to talk about it, we can set up a time and discuss it over SKYPE or Yahoo messenger...just email or text me when a good time is with you and I can clear my schedule. Try also to get hold of Mabagani; I think he also knows about the macabre history of your kris and knows some people in the states that can help you out. Unfortunately, I believe he was banned on this forum so if you don't have any contact info on him let me know. He's probably your best resource in these matters.

As far as the book is concerned...It's done. It's just a matter of what I want to include or leave out. And right now I'm debating whether I should publish it or not. If I do publish, it's going to be an extremely limited run and only available in the Philippines. I'll let you know if it happens and save you a copy...I already had you on the list

. I do have it as a MS Word document and as a PDF....but it's huge....over 300 pages and 200 photos and diagrams. LabanTayo has a copy of that, but I told him not to share it with anyone. Let me know if you're interested and I'll text him.

Regards,

Z

Bill M · 30th July 2007, 06:33 PM

Hi Zel,

Congratulations on finishing your book. Assume it has to do with Filipino weapons, also hopefully culture, history, art, religion and all the integral parts of your wonderful culture.

Also good to see you and others posting again.

Though I have recently gotten a few pieces, like a good 19th c S. Philippines, Mindanao, Bagobo shield, (It is missing the top bar, may have Arjan/Mandaukudi, or Battara make one for me) I have been thinking about studying another culture because there is so little good information on the PI.

Seriously thinking abut selling some of my PI weapons --- the lower end pieces --- and getting into Nihonto. If this happens, I'll be posting PI in the Swap Forum.

Good luck with your book. With your knowledge and experience it should be a welcome addition.

29th July 2007, 08:51 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	OK Ron, i'm intrigue. You really have to let me have a crack at this baby before winter. I know you are busy with work, but how about next weekend? In the meantime, can you give me a few technical details. So, you shot this on a tripod, right? What were the camera settings, i.e. ISO, shutter speed and aperture? What is the light source and at what time of day? So if i am able to take a sharp picture of this kris does that mean it wants to come live with me?

29th July 2007, 11:18 PM	#2
LabanTayo Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 177	Spunjer, I have an offer you can't refuse for the anting-anting kris. Remember the Katipunan flag?

30th July 2007, 02:32 AM	#3
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	Spunger, Sorry I've been AWOL here. I recognize that kris of yours...I know it well. PM, email, or text me on my Philippine cell# and we can discuss that kris of yours. There's some bad karma associated with your kris and unfortunately I can't discuss this on a public forum. Ingat 'tol, Z

30th July 2007, 04:31 AM	#4
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	david, definitely would love to get with you sooner, but we're going on vacation the next couple weeks. will be back on the 11th. but yeah, we definitely need to get ASAP! would like to have a non biased opinion on this... labantayo, lol, that's a very tempting offer, but i really like to enjoy this kris for awhile... but then again, i've seen some of your toys, and now that i got your attention... you got pm... zel, wassup bro! long time no hear! noticed you haven't been active here for awhile. the original owner mentioned he talked to another filipino prior to selling this sword to me and he did mentioned about the 'bad karma' stuff the filipino mentioned. so was that you? i try to be level headed, but now it looks like i'm starting to get the creeps, lol. anywho, last time we corresponded you mentioned about you were in the verge of finalizing your book, Aming Sundang (Our Sword). i know you were trying to iron out some differences with ateneo de davao press. how's everthing coming along on that? would the book be available here in the states, or would that just gonna be released in the philippines? inquiry mind wanna know... email me, brad: spiderguard77@yahoo.com pm's on the way as well...

30th July 2007, 12:52 PM	#5
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Though this is more often a concern for Javanese and Balinese keris, I would suspect that Moro kris might also move on their own. This could account for the blurry pictures. I would suggest a large cover with substantial Hebew and Javanese power symbols (since you mention SOLOman) to be sure that this kris does not carry out nocturnal missions. Be careful!

30th July 2007, 03:26 PM	#6
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	Spunger, Yo bro! Email has been sent in regards to that kris of yours. If you find it too cryptic and want to talk about it, we can set up a time and discuss it over SKYPE or Yahoo messenger...just email or text me when a good time is with you and I can clear my schedule. Try also to get hold of Mabagani; I think he also knows about the macabre history of your kris and knows some people in the states that can help you out. Unfortunately, I believe he was banned on this forum so if you don't have any contact info on him let me know. He's probably your best resource in these matters. As far as the book is concerned...It's done. It's just a matter of what I want to include or leave out. And right now I'm debating whether I should publish it or not. If I do publish, it's going to be an extremely limited run and only available in the Philippines. I'll let you know if it happens and save you a copy...I already had you on the list . I do have it as a MS Word document and as a PDF....but it's huge....over 300 pages and 200 photos and diagrams. LabanTayo has a copy of that, but I told him not to share it with anyone. Let me know if you're interested and I'll text him. Regards, Z

30th July 2007, 06:33 PM	#7
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Hi Zel, Congratulations on finishing your book. Assume it has to do with Filipino weapons, also hopefully culture, history, art, religion and all the integral parts of your wonderful culture. Also good to see you and others posting again. Though I have recently gotten a few pieces, like a good 19th c S. Philippines, Mindanao, Bagobo shield, (It is missing the top bar, may have Arjan/Mandaukudi, or Battara make one for me) I have been thinking about studying another culture because there is so little good information on the PI. Seriously thinking abut selling some of my PI weapons --- the lower end pieces --- and getting into Nihonto. If this happens, I'll be posting PI in the Swap Forum. Good luck with your book. With your knowledge and experience it should be a welcome addition.