MORO SILVER HILTED

Flavio · 29th July 2007, 07:32 AM

Flavio · 29th July 2007, 03:03 PM

Well, today I was at the sea with some friends (and girls, you know one can't always stay at home to clean and to etch blades

) but I was thinking at the kris (I hope that the sunlight didn't hurt me too much

). Ok my next step will to etch the blade with lime as suggested, but there could be also another explanation. I have attached a sketch (to help me to explain): it is possible that in origin the blade has another kind of lamination (no twisted core), but with many and many polishings (the green portion) it's gone and now what I have it's only the inner core (the black one that you can see from the pictures of my kris). Some little portions of the green portion is still visible near the gangya. What do you think?

Tim Simmons · 29th July 2007, 03:45 PM

I might have it all wrong. This is what I see. Two pieces A and B . They are there in every etch. As far as I can make out B is one piece that may have some lamination or more mixed steels? but I think forged as one piece. A seems to have been introduced latter in the half formed blade?

Battara · 29th July 2007, 06:49 PM

Keep etching - sometimes a blade can be sooooo polished that it takes several etchings to make a pattern "pop". Believe me, I know.

Flavio · 29th July 2007, 06:53 PM

Thank you Jose, I'll do

ThePepperSkull · 28th May 2012, 04:19 AM

I have a kris with a similar gandik/"elephant mouth" shape to this one. Still honing my Moro-blade I.D.-ing skills.

Are my instincts right by guessing that these are both Sulu kris? (Or do I need to hit the books a bit more? )

Sajen · 28th May 2012, 09:48 AM

Sorry both, I have copied two pictures to see them both together.

Sajen · 28th May 2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio

Thank you Jose, I'll do

BTW, do you have get any results?

Indianajones · 28th May 2012, 08:09 PM

Maybe you guys are wanting the blade to have something which is just not in it!?!?! Does a laminated blade make the kris so much more. . . . .???

>I know I may be striking against most folks opinion here, but from my opinion a laminated blade is most often just visible even before etching. Though many are of the opinion that any layers in iron (or imperfections) becoming visible by etching must be laminating.

Reason of this note; we are all just temporarely owners of these antique pieces, as after our death (or before) we will pass them on to the next owner. As has been done before we got these antique pieces. And extreme etching does efect the iron as it eats certain ingredients away (forever).
Sorry, its not my intention to sound like a schoolteacher or so, but as collectors of antiquities one does/should have responsibilities

29th July 2007, 03:03 PM	#2
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Well, today I was at the sea with some friends (and girls, you know one can't always stay at home to clean and to etch blades ) but I was thinking at the kris (I hope that the sunlight didn't hurt me too much ). Ok my next step will to etch the blade with lime as suggested, but there could be also another explanation. I have attached a sketch (to help me to explain): it is possible that in origin the blade has another kind of lamination (no twisted core), but with many and many polishings (the green portion) it's gone and now what I have it's only the inner core (the black one that you can see from the pictures of my kris). Some little portions of the green portion is still visible near the gangya. What do you think? Attached Images

28th May 2012, 04:19 AM	#6
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	I have a kris with a similar gandik/"elephant mouth" shape to this one. Still honing my Moro-blade I.D.-ing skills. Are my instincts right by guessing that these are both Sulu kris? (Or do I need to hit the books a bit more? ) Attached Images

28th May 2012, 09:48 AM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Sorry both, I have copied two pictures to see them both together. Attached Images

29th July 2007, 07:32 AM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243

29th July 2007, 03:45 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	I might have it all wrong. This is what I see. Two pieces A and B . They are there in every etch. As far as I can make out B is one piece that may have some lamination or more mixed steels? but I think forged as one piece. A seems to have been introduced latter in the half formed blade?

29th July 2007, 06:49 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	Keep etching - sometimes a blade can be sooooo polished that it takes several etchings to make a pattern "pop". Believe me, I know.

29th July 2007, 06:53 PM	#5
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you Jose, I'll do

28th May 2012, 08:09 PM	#9
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Maybe you guys are wanting the blade to have something which is just not in it!?!?! Does a laminated blade make the kris so much more. . . . .??? >I know I may be striking against most folks opinion here, but from my opinion a laminated blade is most often just visible even before etching. Though many are of the opinion that any layers in iron (or imperfections) becoming visible by etching must be laminating. Reason of this note; we are all just temporarely owners of these antique pieces, as after our death (or before) we will pass them on to the next owner. As has been done before we got these antique pieces. And extreme etching does efect the iron as it eats certain ingredients away (forever). Sorry, its not my intention to sound like a schoolteacher or so, but as collectors of antiquities one does/should have responsibilities