German sword maker

fernando · 9th June 2007, 10:15 PM

Hi Jim and Jeff.
Time to update you on this saga.
On the maker's mark, i still have nothing solid. As Jeff well sugested, it could not belong to the smith but to the trader, whom doesn't seem to be known enough to be regconized. There is also the problem of the faded name which, after several tests out there, is considered to be ALFRED SCHULTZ, but still not recorded anywhere so far. The human bust could be a Bishop and not a King, but also no evidence of its record.
As for type of this piece, let me tell you that, before it ended up identified, it was called respectively: hunting sword, infantry or police sidearm, Collins machete, russian shasqa, cutacha, rehilted WWI bayonet, Museum Replicas shasqua, and so on

Quite an endurance

Then suddenly somebody comes up with a picture of a similar piece, posted in a thread four years ago, where the moderator asked an expert to identify.
The name of the piece is Machete do Monte.
The poster was not2sharp, the moderator was Bernard Levine ( bladeforums.com ) and the expert is Carter Rila.
As for the age, a different opinion dated that typeface around 1880, as also others sugested that the engraving could be a later work, so not necessarily representing the date of manufacturing of the piece.
In view of all this, i decided to go back to the seller and buy him something more peacefull

The attached pictures show a piece much easier to atribute a manufacturer

I just have to find out whether this is a machete or some kind of variation. The age, i hope is XIX century, until i hear or read otherwise. The grips would be horn. The guard and fittings are german silver ( this the term? ). The blade on this one is much thinner and wider, and is 14" long. It's good it keeps its leather scabbard.
Best regards
fernando

bvieira · 24th November 2020, 12:39 PM

Hello,

Did not saw this thread earlier.

ALFRED SCHULTZ is a bladesmith and swordmaker, german, sec 19 mainly, he did some of the finest quality revivalist swords for palaces and castles. He also did edged weapons for real combat like knifes and military baynets. Their revivalist swords were done using the same procedures of the real ones, so they are all real weapons too, I have a medieval sword done by him I think you have saw it!

Regards,

Bruno vieira

not2sharp · 28th November 2020, 09:06 AM

Here is my original thread that Fernando mentioned:

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/...demark.257565/

N2s

9th June 2007, 10:15 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Jim and Jeff. Time to update you on this saga. On the maker's mark, i still have nothing solid. As Jeff well sugested, it could not belong to the smith but to the trader, whom doesn't seem to be known enough to be regconized. There is also the problem of the faded name which, after several tests out there, is considered to be ALFRED SCHULTZ, but still not recorded anywhere so far. The human bust could be a Bishop and not a King, but also no evidence of its record. As for type of this piece, let me tell you that, before it ended up identified, it was called respectively: hunting sword, infantry or police sidearm, Collins machete, russian shasqa, cutacha, rehilted WWI bayonet, Museum Replicas shasqua, and so on Quite an endurance Then suddenly somebody comes up with a picture of a similar piece, posted in a thread four years ago, where the moderator asked an expert to identify. The name of the piece is Machete do Monte. The poster was not2sharp, the moderator was Bernard Levine ( bladeforums.com ) and the expert is Carter Rila. As for the age, a different opinion dated that typeface around 1880, as also others sugested that the engraving could be a later work, so not necessarily representing the date of manufacturing of the piece. In view of all this, i decided to go back to the seller and buy him something more peacefull The attached pictures show a piece much easier to atribute a manufacturer I just have to find out whether this is a machete or some kind of variation. The age, i hope is XIX century, until i hear or read otherwise. The grips would be horn. The guard and fittings are german silver ( this the term? ). The blade on this one is much thinner and wider, and is 14" long. It's good it keeps its leather scabbard. Best regards fernando Attached Images

24th November 2020, 12:39 PM	#2
bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	Hello, Did not saw this thread earlier. ALFRED SCHULTZ is a bladesmith and swordmaker, german, sec 19 mainly, he did some of the finest quality revivalist swords for palaces and castles. He also did edged weapons for real combat like knifes and military baynets. Their revivalist swords were done using the same procedures of the real ones, so they are all real weapons too, I have a medieval sword done by him I think you have saw it! Regards, Bruno vieira

28th November 2020, 09:06 AM	#3
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	Here is my original thread that Fernando mentioned: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/...demark.257565/ N2s