PI Kris for ID and Comments

Rick · 2nd March 2005, 02:51 AM

I'd say that this is an older blade but I'm not quite certain .
By Catos book this would be of Mindanao origin .
The gangya seems to have been broken and re-shaped .
The dress is fairly new except for the cockatua which appears to be of old marine ivory .
The asang asang/s are missing and were most likely not included in the remount .

Ian · 2nd March 2005, 03:18 AM

Agree with Rick. 20th C. remount in the Maranao style of an older blade that has part of its gangya missing and no asang asang. Old small kakatua. Scabbard is 20th C. also.

moose · 4th March 2005, 12:31 AM

Ok,
Thanks for those thoughts. Here's a picture of the design in the end , down by the point.

Do these represent a trident? Supposedly to protect the owner??

How about some of you other Moro guys? Chip in if you would please.

moose

moose · 4th March 2005, 08:52 PM

I have another kris I wanted to post for comments and Id. Should I post it here or should I start a new thread??

Forumites suggestions?

moose

Rick · 4th March 2005, 09:27 PM

Edited
Cancel that , post it here .

Battara · 4th March 2005, 09:37 PM

Moose, I would not call that a trident, but part of the plant "okir" motif used on these blades. Also, by the look of the mounts on the hilt, it looks like you have bands of silver and copper with a gold wash (or at least worn gold over copper). I agree with the other assessments already mentioned.

moose · 5th March 2005, 08:44 PM

Battara,
Thanks. Later on I'll post some pics of a dagger I have that I believe has Solomon's square and some Tridents on it.

Yes it looks like silver and Gold over copper. Is that called suassa? sp? or something like it.

moose

2nd March 2005, 02:51 AM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Observations I'd say that this is an older blade but I'm not quite certain . By Catos book this would be of Mindanao origin . The gangya seems to have been broken and re-shaped . The dress is fairly new except for the cockatua which appears to be of old marine ivory . The asang asang/s are missing and were most likely not included in the remount .

4th March 2005, 12:31 AM	#3
moose Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portage, Michigan USA Posts: 44	Ok, Thanks for those thoughts. Here's a picture of the design in the end , down by the point. Do these represent a trident? Supposedly to protect the owner?? How about some of you other Moro guys? Chip in if you would please. moose Attached Images

2nd March 2005, 03:18 AM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	Agree with Rick. 20th C. remount in the Maranao style of an older blade that has part of its gangya missing and no asang asang. Old small kakatua. Scabbard is 20th C. also.

4th March 2005, 08:52 PM	#4
moose Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portage, Michigan USA Posts: 44	I have another kris I wanted to post for comments and Id. Should I post it here or should I start a new thread?? Forumites suggestions? moose

4th March 2005, 09:27 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Edited Cancel that , post it here .

4th March 2005, 09:37 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Moose, I would not call that a trident, but part of the plant "okir" motif used on these blades. Also, by the look of the mounts on the hilt, it looks like you have bands of silver and copper with a gold wash (or at least worn gold over copper). I agree with the other assessments already mentioned.

5th March 2005, 08:44 PM	#7
moose Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portage, Michigan USA Posts: 44	Battara, Thanks. Later on I'll post some pics of a dagger I have that I believe has Solomon's square and some Tridents on it. Yes it looks like silver and Gold over copper. Is that called suassa? sp? or something like it. moose