Indian sword

Henk · 23rd May 2007, 09:22 PM

Andrew, you hit the nail. Congrats Freddy, with this beauty.

Freddy · 23rd May 2007, 09:32 PM

So it's Indonesian ? In fact, the person I bought this one from had two other swords which I could identify as Indonesian : a mandau and a hunting sword with the inscription 'Tjikr'

I found some info on this last knife on this forum : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=tjikeroeh

In fact, here's a picture of the lot :

ariel · 23rd May 2007, 09:34 PM

Sorry, Andrew and Henk, not Piso Podang; just Pedang Type 1 as per our own expert Albert's book

I am intrigued by the pommel, though: it is, indeed, hollow like in Piso. I think it is an artefact of the broken handguard.
Very nice!

Andrew · 23rd May 2007, 09:46 PM

I don't have Albert's book with me, Ariel, but JT's article indicates this is, more specifically, a peudeueng peusangan with a hulu meu apet.

(At least I got the origin and half the name correct.

).

Jens Nordlunde · 23rd May 2007, 10:44 PM

It is not Indian, and what the other members have written sounds right to me, congratulations

. Funny really, that so 'relativly' little difference of the hilt, makes the sword quite another sword of origin. So watch out for details.
I think you did well Andrew

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carlos · 23rd May 2007, 11:00 PM

VERY BEAUTIFUL SWORD, IT´S POSSIBLE THAN THIS TYPE OF SWORD WILL BE MY NEXT OBJECTIVE.
CONGRATULATION!!
AH IS THIS SWORD TO SELL?

REGARDS
CARLOS

Flavio · 24th May 2007, 12:18 AM

Congratulations Freddy for the Pedang 1!!! But is the handle of the mongelima sword made of ivory? Thanks

RhysMichael · 24th May 2007, 01:16 AM

A nice sword, definitely Aceh and they come from time to time with a pattern welded blade. The one I have with a pattern welded blade came from Artzi. It is called a pedang type 1 and also peudeueng pasangan , sikin peusangan, sikin pasagan, pedang, poedeung. There are so many dialects in that region that it gets really confusing. I use peudeueng as I beleive that to be the Aceh term for it. The hilt is called a hulu meu apet and should have a spike similar but smaller than is found on a firangi. Congrats on a good find.

utami is in that part of the world and has some connections with Aceh smiths. I do not know if they can make a replacement part for you but its sure worth asking. Phillip Tom may be another resource for it

freddy if you get a chance I would appreciate some better pictures of the scabbard to peudeung if you ever get a chance

flavio the handle of the mongelima sword looks to be a similar to some seen on burmese swords. Maybe a boars tooth ? but just a guess.

Andrew thanks for the kind words but the article is a compilation of information shared on this forum with me. So the credit should go to all those here who were so willing to share.

23rd May 2007, 09:32 PM	#2
Freddy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sint-Amandsberg (near Ghent, Belgium) Posts: 830	Oupss ! So it's Indonesian ? In fact, the person I bought this one from had two other swords which I could identify as Indonesian : a mandau and a hunting sword with the inscription 'Tjikr' I found some info on this last knife on this forum : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=tjikeroeh In fact, here's a picture of the lot :

23rd May 2007, 10:44 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	It is not Indian, and what the other members have written sounds right to me, congratulations. Funny really, that so 'relativly' little difference of the hilt, makes the sword quite another sword of origin. So watch out for details. I think you did well Andrew.

23rd May 2007, 11:00 PM	#6
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	OHHHH!! VERY BEAUTIFUL SWORD, IT´S POSSIBLE THAN THIS TYPE OF SWORD WILL BE MY NEXT OBJECTIVE. CONGRATULATION!! AH IS THIS SWORD TO SELL? REGARDS CARLOS

24th May 2007, 01:16 AM	#8
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	A nice sword, definitely Aceh and they come from time to time with a pattern welded blade. The one I have with a pattern welded blade came from Artzi. It is called a pedang type 1 and also peudeueng pasangan , sikin peusangan, sikin pasagan, pedang, poedeung. There are so many dialects in that region that it gets really confusing. I use peudeueng as I beleive that to be the Aceh term for it. The hilt is called a hulu meu apet and should have a spike similar but smaller than is found on a firangi. Congrats on a good find. utami is in that part of the world and has some connections with Aceh smiths. I do not know if they can make a replacement part for you but its sure worth asking. Phillip Tom may be another resource for it freddy if you get a chance I would appreciate some better pictures of the scabbard to peudeung if you ever get a chance flavio the handle of the mongelima sword looks to be a similar to some seen on burmese swords. Maybe a boars tooth ? but just a guess. Andrew thanks for the kind words but the article is a compilation of information shared on this forum with me. So the credit should go to all those here who were so willing to share. Last edited by RhysMichael; 24th May 2007 at 01:30 AM.

23rd May 2007, 09:22 PM	#1
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Andrew, you hit the nail. Congrats Freddy, with this beauty.

23rd May 2007, 09:34 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Sorry, Andrew and Henk, not Piso Podang; just Pedang Type 1 as per our own expert Albert's book I am intrigued by the pommel, though: it is, indeed, hollow like in Piso. I think it is an artefact of the broken handguard. Very nice!

23rd May 2007, 09:46 PM	#4
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	I don't have Albert's book with me, Ariel, but JT's article indicates this is, more specifically, a peudeueng peusangan with a hulu meu apet. (At least I got the origin and half the name correct. ).

24th May 2007, 12:18 AM	#7
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Congratulations Freddy for the Pedang 1!!! But is the handle of the mongelima sword made of ivory? Thanks