20th Century Solonese Keris

[Alam Shah]

Originally Posted by Boedhi Adhitya

... Actually, the real threat to keris culture is the popular misunderstanding that keris is a dukun's tool, and thus, an evil things. This misunderstanding amplified by massmedia such as TVs and movies, and keep alive by those who make living from it. This misunderstanding leads to two ends : 'keris avoidance', that is, peoples are reluctant to deal with keris/tosan aji, even if they inherit it. Other is the tendency of some religion leaders/priests, whom are lack of understanding, against the keris/tosan aji.

I agree. Even in Singapore and Malaysia, the same problem exists. On hindsight, we can still get keris for a reasonably low price... from those who wish to part with it.

[A. G. Maisey]

Pak Boedhi, seldom do I read anything about keris with which I am in total agreement.

I endorse your comments completely.

[ganjawulung]

Wow,

Interesting discussion. Thanks Alan, David, Raden, Shahrial and all.. Go ahead. Still have no idea yet...

[Raden Usman Djogja]

hi Kerislovers,

From now, I realize how really difficult to patent a thing (especially a thing likes keris). If patenting is considered as "impossible" action, I would like to highlight the idea beneath.... (recognition, champaign, recording). Anymean can use for it, sure, including this forum.

Dik Boedhi,
how wonderful your explanation.
yupe, too many problems/difficulties.
lets go along the edge.

Usmen

[ganjawulung]

Oops,

Don't forget, Raden... to post your "urubing damar"...

[Raden Usman Djogja]

Gonjo,

I promise to send it.

I apologize if there will be delayed email sending. This morning, I got information that Indonesian Minister of Finance and Governor of Central Bank would visit Senegal started on next Sunday. Because of that, I forgot to take picture Urubing Damar before leaving home.

Now, I am still in the office. So this is my new scenario. I will take picture this late evening and upload by tomorrow afternoon (in the morning, there will be a meeting).

Keris description (based on my sense):
urubing damar, sepang, mojopahit, kelengan.
Tomorrow, I would like to ask (demand ) your opinion about it.

Usmen

[Raden Usman Djogja]

Gonjo,

I have taken pictures. Hope I can post it tomorrow. Now, it is 23.45. Time to go to bed. Perhaps, the picture quality is not as good as if taken at noon because of the flash effect.

c u tomorrow,

Usmen

[Raden Usman Djogja]

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Oops,

Don't forget, Raden... to post your "urubing damar"...

Gonjo,

here, I post "urubing dilah"

I request your comments

Usmen

[Raden Usman Djogja]

Gonjo,

lanjutan

[ganjawulung]

Originally Posted by Raden Usman Djogja

Gonjo,

here, I post "urubing dilah"

I request your comments

Usmen

Yes, Raden...

Your pusakas, both are old. Noting the style, (although not knowing the iron or the blade), your "urubing dilah" or "urubing damar" (the flame?) supposed to be Majapahit's style -- thinner than Mataram style.

The keris' sheath, certainly is a type or an "iras" (one piece of wood). I suppose, tayuman wood (a kind of bush wood, I will search the name in Latin, later). The ukiran or handle (hilt -- according to David) is maybe "yudowinatan style" (Mas Boedi may correct me if I'm wrong), from "kemuning werut" wood (I will search the Latin word later).

Your tombak, (I suppose) also from Majapahit era. (probable the dhapur is "sigar jantung" or "a piece of heart" -- not correct English word maybe). The tombak sheath is maybe from cendana wood or sandal-wood. The "methuk" of tombak (I don't know the English word), ornamented with "kinatah sultan agungan" (special ornament from Sultan Agung era, 16th century).

From the form of your pusakas, I guess they were (your family's) heritage.. Please, forgive me Raden, if I'm wrong...