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Mick · 25th February 2005, 06:51 AM

Rick

Those Balinese Ceremonial knives nowadays usually look like what Zonneveld calls Wedungs from Bali on page 153. I have one of these which I have previously shown at this link.

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000732.html
(Don't know why this didn't come out in color.)

These knives are used in the opening of the coffin in cremation ceremonies.

The piece that Zonneveld shows on page 74 is a much higher grade piece which was acquired in 1895 and is probably not now the norm except in the finest circles.

The only similarity I see with the one on the back cover is the general outline of the cut on the top of the sheath. I know that the actual cut for the blade is muxh wider than that for the piece that I have shown here.

rahman

The blade is definately a pedang. The pamor is a puzzling. The entire piece is puzzling.

tom hyle · 25th February 2005, 01:13 PM

Of course the craftsman should have done what he agreed to do. On the other hand the sword is happier this way.
Why would a person leap to the assumption that the sheath, if newer, was made in N America, rather than Indonesia, which would be more common?

Mick · 25th February 2005, 03:24 PM

Tom

I assume that you are being factious. What happened is often the norm rather than a special event even when you are right on top of the situation. (Inonesian nationals please don't take offense with this statement. If you have had experience with this activity you should be smiling in rememberance.) Actually my experiance with local craftsmen has been very good with this case the only mishap in all the work that I had done by the group I knew yers ago in Bali.

The flavor of the dress was distinctly Balinese which is why I had the additions made and installed there. The blade itself I should have said is a sword of some type rather than a pedang which sort of leads one to a specific type of sword with both a sharp edge and a point. This thing is more of a swinging cutting device and has the rectangular tang required for this activity.

Jens Nordlunde · 25th February 2005, 04:17 PM

Can anyone tell me which flowers are used for decoration on the hilt? The one on the top looks like Chrysanthemum. Is it, and what about the others.

Regards

Jens

25th February 2005, 06:51 AM	#1
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Rick Those Balinese Ceremonial knives nowadays usually look like what Zonneveld calls Wedungs from Bali on page 153. I have one of these which I have previously shown at this link. http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000732.html (Don't know why this didn't come out in color.) These knives are used in the opening of the coffin in cremation ceremonies. The piece that Zonneveld shows on page 74 is a much higher grade piece which was acquired in 1895 and is probably not now the norm except in the finest circles. The only similarity I see with the one on the back cover is the general outline of the cut on the top of the sheath. I know that the actual cut for the blade is muxh wider than that for the piece that I have shown here. rahman The blade is definately a pedang. The pamor is a puzzling. The entire piece is puzzling.

25th February 2005, 01:13 PM	#2
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Of course the craftsman should have done what he agreed to do. On the other hand the sword is happier this way. Why would a person leap to the assumption that the sheath, if newer, was made in N America, rather than Indonesia, which would be more common?

25th February 2005, 03:24 PM	#3
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	Tom I assume that you are being factious. What happened is often the norm rather than a special event even when you are right on top of the situation. (Inonesian nationals please don't take offense with this statement. If you have had experience with this activity you should be smiling in rememberance.) Actually my experiance with local craftsmen has been very good with this case the only mishap in all the work that I had done by the group I knew yers ago in Bali. The flavor of the dress was distinctly Balinese which is why I had the additions made and installed there. The blade itself I should have said is a sword of some type rather than a pedang which sort of leads one to a specific type of sword with both a sharp edge and a point. This thing is more of a swinging cutting device and has the rectangular tang required for this activity.

25th February 2005, 04:17 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Can anyone tell me which flowers are used for decoration on the hilt? The one on the top looks like Chrysanthemum. Is it, and what about the others. Regards Jens