non ethno sword

fernando · 24th February 2005, 08:51 PM

Amazing thing !
I have ordered " Swords and Blades of the American Revolution" from an U.S.A. site and what i received was "Colecctors Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American Revolution" by G.C.Neumann and Frank J. Kravic. Page and image numbers do not coincide with Jim's quotations on the earlier Neumann's book, as this one probably with more material ( 286 pages size A4 ).
In any case, in this page 253, image 10 shows a specimen with the whole lay out in the same manner as my discussed hanger ... wired grip, pommel, capstan, guard, quilon ... although assumedly from a different provenance ... little diffirences in shape and dimension of details. Curiously the thumb ring is also an assembled one, looking to be just the same model, but mounted on the opposite side ... as such must have belonged to a left hander, which confirms Jim's aproach that this was an "optional" to be ordered.
I have meanhwile consulted some sites on Danish hangers, and currently i only find tracks on the version with the spiral brass grip and so. Such model has lasted over there for several decades, and a local (sub) version developed was the trimming of the heart shaped hilt, to make it slimmer for waist suspension ( sorry for bizarre lexicon ).
Kind regards

Jim McDougall · 26th February 2005, 12:42 AM

Hi Fernando,
Thank you so much for the update! It is much appreciated and thank you for providing support for my theory. It is always rewarding to see ones observations strengthened in plausibility

The book you obtained, I wonder if it may be a revised or updated version of the original by Neumann which I noted? Can you provide ISBN # and more on the title etc. ?
Again, very nice sword!
All the best,
Jim

fernando · 27th February 2005, 08:28 PM

Hi Jim
No problem.
ISBN 0-9605666-8-6
The title is indeed "Collector's Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American revolution"..
The reknown collector George Neumann joined Frank Kravic, an archeologist specialized in the period and subject, and both registered this work's copyright in 1975.
A third name was envolved, illustrator George Woodbridge, as well as many museums.
This edition was published by Scurlock Publishing Company (Texas ) in 1997.
Anithing else, just tell.
Keep well
fernando

Jim McDougall · 27th February 2005, 08:47 PM

Hi Fernando,
Thank you so much! That is great, I'll have to look for this one, sounds pretty good.
All the best,
Jim

24th February 2005, 08:51 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Amazing thing ! I have ordered " Swords and Blades of the American Revolution" from an U.S.A. site and what i received was "Colecctors Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American Revolution" by G.C.Neumann and Frank J. Kravic. Page and image numbers do not coincide with Jim's quotations on the earlier Neumann's book, as this one probably with more material ( 286 pages size A4 ). In any case, in this page 253, image 10 shows a specimen with the whole lay out in the same manner as my discussed hanger ... wired grip, pommel, capstan, guard, quilon ... although assumedly from a different provenance ... little diffirences in shape and dimension of details. Curiously the thumb ring is also an assembled one, looking to be just the same model, but mounted on the opposite side ... as such must have belonged to a left hander, which confirms Jim's aproach that this was an "optional" to be ordered. I have meanhwile consulted some sites on Danish hangers, and currently i only find tracks on the version with the spiral brass grip and so. Such model has lasted over there for several decades, and a local (sub) version developed was the trimming of the heart shaped hilt, to make it slimmer for waist suspension ( sorry for bizarre lexicon ). Kind regards

26th February 2005, 12:42 AM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,278	Hi Fernando, Thank you so much for the update! It is much appreciated and thank you for providing support for my theory. It is always rewarding to see ones observations strengthened in plausibility The book you obtained, I wonder if it may be a revised or updated version of the original by Neumann which I noted? Can you provide ISBN # and more on the title etc. ? Again, very nice sword! All the best, Jim

27th February 2005, 08:28 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Jim No problem. ISBN 0-9605666-8-6 The title is indeed "Collector's Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American revolution".. The reknown collector George Neumann joined Frank Kravic, an archeologist specialized in the period and subject, and both registered this work's copyright in 1975. A third name was envolved, illustrator George Woodbridge, as well as many museums. This edition was published by Scurlock Publishing Company (Texas ) in 1997. Anithing else, just tell. Keep well fernando

27th February 2005, 08:47 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,278	Hi Fernando, Thank you so much! That is great, I'll have to look for this one, sounds pretty good. All the best, Jim