Keris washer

A. G. Maisey · 12th February 2007, 10:58 PM

Thank you Shahrial for making that link to the competition winners available.

I have had a look at the winners, and the question has arisen in my mind as to how the winners are selected.

What standards are used to determine the finest keris exhibited?

Most especially in respect of Javanese and Balinese keris, how do the judges determine which is the best keris?

Is it an objective choice based upon a predetermined set of standards, or a subjective choice where concensus is reached as to the keris with the highest degree of visual appeal?

Newsteel · 13th February 2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

What standards are used to determine the finest keris exhibited?

Most especially in respect of Javanese and Balinese keris, how do the judges determine which is the best keris?

Is it an objective choice based upon a predetermined set of standards, or a subjective choice where concensus is reached as to the keris with the highest degree of visual appeal?

Unless the competitors were briefed about the judging criterias, this I believe Adni can explain with much details.

Alam Shah · 13th February 2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Thank you Shahrial for making that link to the competition winners available.

Those are last year's (2006) pictures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I have had a look at the winners, and the question has arisen in my mind as to how the winners are selected.

What standards are used to determine the finest keris exhibited?

Most especially in respect of Javanese and Balinese keris, how do the judges determine which is the best keris?

Is it an objective choice based upon a predetermined set of standards, or a subjective choice where concensus is reached as to the keris with the highest degree of visual appeal?

It is an objective choice based upon a predetermined set of standards. In summary, a points based system awarded by a panel of judges. I guess you could drop a mail to Adni for details.

A. G. Maisey · 13th February 2007, 01:06 AM

Thanks for your explanation Shahrial.I didn't realise I was looking at last year, but that doesn't really matter as my interest was in the process.

I do not feel inclined to raise the matter privately with Adni, as I do not correspond with him, and I feel it would be rather impolite to approach him with this query, especially as I do not participate in this event, and have no intention of so doing.

I had hoped that you may have known the applicable standards, or, if you did not, that somebody else may have.

I feel it would be most educational for all of us who follow these matters to have a knowledge of the standards used by the judges, as perhaps these standards could be used by collectors in their own evaluation of a keris.

As a product of the Javanese school, I of course have my own set of standards, and as I applied these to the photos of the winners in this competition, I was left wondering exactly what standards were in place.

12th February 2007, 10:58 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Thank you Shahrial for making that link to the competition winners available. I have had a look at the winners, and the question has arisen in my mind as to how the winners are selected. What standards are used to determine the finest keris exhibited? Most especially in respect of Javanese and Balinese keris, how do the judges determine which is the best keris? Is it an objective choice based upon a predetermined set of standards, or a subjective choice where concensus is reached as to the keris with the highest degree of visual appeal?

13th February 2007, 01:06 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Thanks for your explanation Shahrial.I didn't realise I was looking at last year, but that doesn't really matter as my interest was in the process. I do not feel inclined to raise the matter privately with Adni, as I do not correspond with him, and I feel it would be rather impolite to approach him with this query, especially as I do not participate in this event, and have no intention of so doing. I had hoped that you may have known the applicable standards, or, if you did not, that somebody else may have. I feel it would be most educational for all of us who follow these matters to have a knowledge of the standards used by the judges, as perhaps these standards could be used by collectors in their own evaluation of a keris. As a product of the Javanese school, I of course have my own set of standards, and as I applied these to the photos of the winners in this competition, I was left wondering exactly what standards were in place.