Bugis Keris For Comment

Alam Shah · 9th February 2007, 12:55 AM

In Martin Kerner's Keris-Griffe Aus Museen Und Privatsammlungen, there is a mention on repair works. A Jawa Demam hilt with the woven wire type. (Pg159-161, Fig: G242). "The figure of Jawa Demam ... ivory of a Sumatran hilt split at the base. In a skillful manner it is kept together with woven wire so that it is at the same time a decoration and takes the function of a selut".

Similar to the other example posted of the wire-works type.

Ok, now back to the horn type...

BluErf · 9th February 2007, 04:51 AM

Looks like my hilt's repair needs repair.

Hi David, the crack you are referring to goes down about 4mm into the base and stops there. There are many hairline cracks on this hilt but it is generally stable.

BluErf · 9th February 2007, 05:02 AM

My mid-period tajong, before the swasa makeover. This hilt's buah pinang has had to major repair done to it, having lost more than half of the original material. Some repairs to the shoulder on the other side too. This hilt is really a "survivor".

Alam Shah · 9th February 2007, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluErf

Looks like my hilt's repair needs repair.

Hi David, the crack you are referring to goes down about 4mm into the base and stops there. There are many hairline cracks on this hilt but it is generally stable.

So does mine.

http://alamshah.fotopic.net/p32019268.html

BluErf · 9th February 2007, 04:13 PM

After a little discussion with Dave Henkel, he has the following to share:

- The hiltcarver might have replaced the buah pinang with horn because the wood there might have been naturally disfigured or insufficient.

- Another possible reason is because the material added has some talismanic function. Dave has a terengganu badik stupa has a little ring of a separate kind of wood that Mr Nik Rashidee [master carver and owner of the "Spirit of Wood" exhibits] from Kelantan thought was added because the wood had a certain "semangat" (roughly = "spirit") or perhaps came from a special piece of material (wood from a childhood home, or an old keris sheath or something like that).

From my perspective, seeing that both Shahrial and my hilt's horn buah pinang have split while the wood of the hilts are largely intact, is it then reasonable to say that horn is a better repair material then say kemuning wood?

BluErf · 9th February 2007, 04:18 PM

Hi Shahrial,

I think the correct picture to use is this:
http://alamshah.fotopic.net/p32019270.html

Alam Shah · 12th February 2007, 01:28 AM

Here's a picture from the bottom.
LOUIEBLADES, is yours something like this or is it differently executed?

9th February 2007, 04:51 AM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Looks like my hilt's repair needs repair. Hi David, the crack you are referring to goes down about 4mm into the base and stops there. There are many hairline cracks on this hilt but it is generally stable. Attached Images

9th February 2007, 05:02 AM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	My mid-period tajong, before the swasa makeover. This hilt's buah pinang has had to major repair done to it, having lost more than half of the original material. Some repairs to the shoulder on the other side too. This hilt is really a "survivor". Attached Images

12th February 2007, 01:28 AM	#7
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Here's a picture from the bottom. LOUIEBLADES, is yours something like this or is it differently executed? Attached Images

9th February 2007, 12:55 AM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	In Martin Kerner's Keris-Griffe Aus Museen Und Privatsammlungen, there is a mention on repair works. A Jawa Demam hilt with the woven wire type. (Pg159-161, Fig: G242). "The figure of Jawa Demam ... ivory of a Sumatran hilt split at the base. In a skillful manner it is kept together with woven wire so that it is at the same time a decoration and takes the function of a selut". Similar to the other example posted of the wire-works type. Ok, now back to the horn type...

9th February 2007, 04:13 PM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	After a little discussion with Dave Henkel, he has the following to share: - The hiltcarver might have replaced the buah pinang with horn because the wood there might have been naturally disfigured or insufficient. - Another possible reason is because the material added has some talismanic function. Dave has a terengganu badik stupa has a little ring of a separate kind of wood that Mr Nik Rashidee [master carver and owner of the "Spirit of Wood" exhibits] from Kelantan thought was added because the wood had a certain "semangat" (roughly = "spirit") or perhaps came from a special piece of material (wood from a childhood home, or an old keris sheath or something like that). From my perspective, seeing that both Shahrial and my hilt's horn buah pinang have split while the wood of the hilts are largely intact, is it then reasonable to say that horn is a better repair material then say kemuning wood?

9th February 2007, 04:18 PM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi Shahrial, I think the correct picture to use is this: http://alamshah.fotopic.net/p32019270.html