What is it?

tom hyle · 20th February 2005, 12:52 PM

I think it may all be European work

RSWORD · 20th February 2005, 09:54 PM

The hilt is not the typical Piso Podang hilt but it has some interesting features that make me think it is not strictly European. Rick's interesting anthropomorphic hilted Podang shows that there can be variations. His is an one of which shows there may have been some variation. The quillons have the general shape of those found on Piso Podang. The pommel on this example reminds me of certain toe pieces found on keris scabbards from the region. Also, the way the brass has been ribbed could be reminiscent of certain keris scabbards. The hilt very well could be Sumatran or Sulawesi and an one of a kind.

Conogre · 21st February 2005, 02:09 AM

I tend to agree with RS on this one.
Very good points.
Mike

ariel · 21st February 2005, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSWORD

The hilt is not the typical Piso Podang hilt but it has some interesting features that make me think it is not strictly European. Rick's interesting anthropomorphic hilted Podang shows that there can be variations. His is an one of which shows there may have been some variation. The quillons have the general shape of those found on Piso Podang. The pommel on this example reminds me of certain toe pieces found on keris scabbards from the region. Also, the way the brass has been ribbed could be reminiscent of certain keris scabbards. The hilt very well could be Sumatran or Sulawesi and an one of a kind.

I agree: there is significant European influence. However, I also agree with RSWORD that there are too many Indonesian motives to be safely ignored: no matter what, the ends of the quillons and the hemispherical pommel do look Piso Podang- ish. Also, the crude leather-only scabbard looks very "native" too.
A hybrid.

Andrew · 21st February 2005, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tom hyle

I think it may all be European work

This is a feeling I share, Tom, but only in my gut.. Why do you think so?

20th February 2005, 12:52 PM	#1
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	I think it may all be European work

20th February 2005, 09:54 PM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	The hilt is not the typical Piso Podang hilt but it has some interesting features that make me think it is not strictly European. Rick's interesting anthropomorphic hilted Podang shows that there can be variations. His is an one of which shows there may have been some variation. The quillons have the general shape of those found on Piso Podang. The pommel on this example reminds me of certain toe pieces found on keris scabbards from the region. Also, the way the brass has been ribbed could be reminiscent of certain keris scabbards. The hilt very well could be Sumatran or Sulawesi and an one of a kind.

21st February 2005, 02:09 AM	#3
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	I tend to agree with RS on this one. Very good points. Mike