Ultimate swordfighting - GATKA

ariel · 24th November 2006, 05:44 AM

With all due respect, this is a clumsy mix of a beginner-level Tae Kwon Do with a generic two-sword dance.
There was no martial arts system in Russia or Ukraine, and the first approximation of it, Sambo, which is an abbreviation of Samooborona bez oruzhiya ( self-defence witout a weapon) was developed in the 1930-1940s as an amalgam of several "Eastern" systems. BTW, President Putin has a Master's Rank in Sambo and, during his visit to Japan several years ago, was technically defeated by a 12 yo girl who practiced Ju-Do.
What we see in the movie clip is a modern fantasy.
Ukrainian Cossacks were a splendid cavalry force but nothing more than that. Nothing to be ashamed of, but there is no need to invent a fable.
The Muslims have nothing to worry about.

Rivkin · 24th November 2006, 06:06 AM

The destruction of soviet union has witnessed the rise of many forms of nazism - mostly russian, ukranian, turkoman and even a communist one. Each of these groups was determined to find some "ancient" culture, some great ariano-iranic root (with an exception of turks obviously) and some ancient warrior codes. Here we have a result - completely bogus fighting systems. But these guys are well trained so it looks good.

24th November 2006, 05:44 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	With all due respect, this is a clumsy mix of a beginner-level Tae Kwon Do with a generic two-sword dance. There was no martial arts system in Russia or Ukraine, and the first approximation of it, Sambo, which is an abbreviation of Samooborona bez oruzhiya ( self-defence witout a weapon) was developed in the 1930-1940s as an amalgam of several "Eastern" systems. BTW, President Putin has a Master's Rank in Sambo and, during his visit to Japan several years ago, was technically defeated by a 12 yo girl who practiced Ju-Do. What we see in the movie clip is a modern fantasy. Ukrainian Cossacks were a splendid cavalry force but nothing more than that. Nothing to be ashamed of, but there is no need to invent a fable. The Muslims have nothing to worry about.

24th November 2006, 06:06 AM	#2
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	The destruction of soviet union has witnessed the rise of many forms of nazism - mostly russian, ukranian, turkoman and even a communist one. Each of these groups was determined to find some "ancient" culture, some great ariano-iranic root (with an exception of turks obviously) and some ancient warrior codes. Here we have a result - completely bogus fighting systems. But these guys are well trained so it looks good.