Movies and Edged Weapons Pt. 2

PUFF · 15th November 2006, 10:45 AM

For Dah/Dahb guys...

http://www.kingnaresuanmovie.com/ (soon)

Its historical accuracy 's not as high as reference books, but they did the best. There 's some degree of producer 's interpretation, though.

Yannis · 15th November 2006, 11:16 AM

I am far of dhafia

, but I will see the movie for sure. It looks epic.

Andrew · 15th November 2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUFF

For Dah/Dahb guys...

http://www.kingnaresuanmovie.com/ (soon)

Its historical accuracy 's not as high as reference books, but they did the best. There 's some degree of producer 's interpretation, though.

Cool!

Looks epic. Any word of a subtitled release?

Bill M · 15th November 2006, 06:18 PM

"The Road to Bali" has a few guys wearing Javanese keris.

Two of the character's names are amusing.

Ramayana --- actually the name for a Hindu epic. 500 to 100 BCE

Ken Arok --- a fascinating character in ealry Javanese history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Arok

The latter is a wonderful story about a famous Javanese keris and Mpu Gandring. Certainly read the part about the woman (Ken Dedes) Ken Arok went for and where she kept a shining light.

However these characters in the movie have absolutely nothing to do with their famous names. I just think it is very funny that someone decided to name two people in a Bob Hope / Bing Crosby / Dorothy Lamour movie.

Emanuel · 18th January 2007, 02:35 AM

Just saw this movie today, and I do recommend it. There's quite a bit of flying around, as Chinese movies are famous for, but the story is quite good and it features a lot of fighting...The story is akin to some Shakespearean dramas, and does a good job of showing the wielding of true power.

There is a particular cycle knife/sword a lot like a large bank, or maybe like some versions of the falx. Of course it's used in very weird ways, thrown around and caught back like a boomerang, but nice anyway. I have many many misgivings about the types of warfare depicted but I'll put that down to artistic license

There's also some interesting pole-arm fights, but somehow I doubt these were ever used in close quarter combat. Magnificent demonstration of armour, but again, I somehow doubt these were 10th century styles.

Emanuel

David · 3rd April 2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manolo

Just saw this movie today, and I do recommend it. There's quite a bit of flying around, as Chinese movies are famous for, but the story is quite good and it features a lot of fighting...The story is akin to some Shakespearean dramas, and does a good job of showing the wielding of true power.

There is a particular cycle knife/sword a lot like a large bank, or maybe like some versions of the falx. Of course it's used in very weird ways, thrown around and caught back like a boomerang, but nice anyway. I have many many misgivings about the types of warfare depicted but I'll put that down to artistic license

There's also some interesting pole-arm fights, but somehow I doubt these were ever used in close quarter combat. Magnificent demonstration of armour, but again, I somehow doubt these were 10th century styles.

Emanuel

Haven't seen this one yet, but from the same director at House of Flying Daggers and Hero i believe. Both were brilliantly stylized martial arts films which elevate the genre to a high art...but i do not suppose they are meant to be historically accurate. Somehow i don't think the breast popping bodice fashions i saw in the trailer are exactly period either.

This is purely art for art's sake and beautifully done at that. Love the directors use of color!

Emanuel · 3rd April 2007, 10:01 PM

haha yeah, they look more like French courtesans at the courts of Louis 14-16.

FenrisWolf · 4th April 2007, 01:19 AM

Not to detract from all things Middle Eastern and SE Asian, but what are some of the better films as far as the European Dark Ages? I was just watching "The 13th Warrior" again, which is one of those that makes me crazy. It's one of the best made as far as capturing Norse attitudes and beliefs ("Your sword is too heavy? Grow stronger!") which is why I love the film, but the arms and armor are a complete nightmare. The viking swords have been given a growth hormone, turning them into two-handed swords, and the armor is a blend of everything from a Roman Gladiator's helm to a 16th century back-and-breastplate, complete with Milanese engraving. Oh, and you have to love Antonio Banderas grinding one of those oversized, double-edged viking broadswords down into a passable single-edged scimitar (that is now sharp enough to cut through a three inch branch with one blow!)

So, examples of reasonably accurate films set in and around the Norman conquest of England or the earlier Viking raids of the same? The only one that jumps to mind for me is 'The Warlord' starring Charlton Heston....

18th January 2007, 02:35 AM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	The Curse of the Golden Flower Just saw this movie today, and I do recommend it. There's quite a bit of flying around, as Chinese movies are famous for, but the story is quite good and it features a lot of fighting...The story is akin to some Shakespearean dramas, and does a good job of showing the wielding of true power. There is a particular cycle knife/sword a lot like a large bank, or maybe like some versions of the falx. Of course it's used in very weird ways, thrown around and caught back like a boomerang, but nice anyway. I have many many misgivings about the types of warfare depicted but I'll put that down to artistic license There's also some interesting pole-arm fights, but somehow I doubt these were ever used in close quarter combat. Magnificent demonstration of armour, but again, I somehow doubt these were 10th century styles. Emanuel

15th November 2006, 10:45 AM	#1
PUFF Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 30 miles north of Bangkok, 20 miles south of Ayuthaya, Thailand Posts: 224	For Dah/Dahb guys... http://www.kingnaresuanmovie.com/ (soon) Its historical accuracy 's not as high as reference books, but they did the best. There 's some degree of producer 's interpretation, though.

15th November 2006, 11:16 AM	#2
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	I am far of dhafia , but I will see the movie for sure. It looks epic.

15th November 2006, 06:18 PM	#4
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	"The Road to Bali" has a few guys wearing Javanese keris. Two of the character's names are amusing. Ramayana --- actually the name for a Hindu epic. 500 to 100 BCE Ken Arok --- a fascinating character in ealry Javanese history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Arok The latter is a wonderful story about a famous Javanese keris and Mpu Gandring. Certainly read the part about the woman (Ken Dedes) Ken Arok went for and where she kept a shining light. However these characters in the movie have absolutely nothing to do with their famous names. I just think it is very funny that someone decided to name two people in a Bob Hope / Bing Crosby / Dorothy Lamour movie.

3rd April 2007, 10:01 PM	#7
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	haha yeah, they look more like French courtesans at the courts of Louis 14-16.

4th April 2007, 01:19 AM	#8
FenrisWolf Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 181	Not to detract from all things Middle Eastern and SE Asian, but what are some of the better films as far as the European Dark Ages? I was just watching "The 13th Warrior" again, which is one of those that makes me crazy. It's one of the best made as far as capturing Norse attitudes and beliefs ("Your sword is too heavy? Grow stronger!") which is why I love the film, but the arms and armor are a complete nightmare. The viking swords have been given a growth hormone, turning them into two-handed swords, and the armor is a blend of everything from a Roman Gladiator's helm to a 16th century back-and-breastplate, complete with Milanese engraving. Oh, and you have to love Antonio Banderas grinding one of those oversized, double-edged viking broadswords down into a passable single-edged scimitar (that is now sharp enough to cut through a three inch branch with one blow!) So, examples of reasonably accurate films set in and around the Norman conquest of England or the earlier Viking raids of the same? The only one that jumps to mind for me is 'The Warlord' starring Charlton Heston....