What are these ?

fenlander · 9th October 2006, 03:39 PM

The final knife of the three small knives.

Ian · 9th October 2006, 05:24 PM

This is the most interesting knife/small sword in your collection for me. It resembles a slim-bladed dha, and the rope binding is reminiscent of the baldrics attached to dha from various areas of mainland SE Asia. The slim, curved scabbard is not like any Thai, Burmese, Lao or Cambodian dha scabbards that I am familiar with. It does have a shape similar to Vietnamese sabers of the 19th C., which is one reason why I favor a Vietnamese origin for this one. Artzi Yarom has pictures on his site of Vietnamese sabers and scabbards which illustrate the shape: http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1216 and http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=1185

Another reason is the hilt. The long iron ferrule with a deep V at the end probably held an ivory or wood extension at the end of the handle. A similar handle is seen on a very beautiful sword on Scott Ridell's web site here: http://www.sevenstarstrading.com/art...page=vietsword

The square/rectangular iron guard again argues for a Chinese influence IMO, but that is consistent with a Vietnamese sword because China controlled much of what is Vietnam today for many centuries.

If you are ever interested in parting with this knife let me know. Also that Chinese puppy.

Ian.

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Originally Posted by fenlander

The final knife of the three small knives.

fenlander · 10th October 2006, 06:23 AM

Do you happen to know what are there member names on this forum as don't seem to be able to find them ?

p.s.
Sure Ian, if i want to find a home for for those puppies then you'll be the first to know and I'll pm you

fenlander · 10th October 2006, 06:31 AM

Scot Riddel seems like he would be the man to know about this Chinese sword. Unfortunately his web site does not seem to have an e-mail address contact, or I can't see it on there.
I am starting to like this Chinese sword. I actually study wing chun kung fu so I am handy with the butterfly swords and this has a similar kind of feel. Got some real weight to it I guess because it is bronze.

Ian · 10th October 2006, 01:41 PM

I'm not seeing Scott in our member's list these days. However, Philip Thom is listed here as "Philip" -- you can contact him by using the PM function or send him an e-mail by going to his Member page and clicking on the e-mail link. Philip can also tell you how to contact Scott by e-mail. Scott's site presently has no e-mail information -- appears he has been updating it recently.

Ian.

fenlander · 10th October 2006, 01:58 PM

I sent a pm to Phillip. Thank for the help.

fenlander · 10th October 2006, 11:39 PM

Hi

I actually in the end find out by myself what it is through a book. It is either a genuine or a copy of an early dynasty brass chariot sword. I guess it is a later re-make but then again you never know. I will take it to the Chinese palace museum to let them see if it is origical or a re-make, i guess a re-make but jsut a small chance it is original, that would make it over a thousand years old! But hardly likely. Still at least i know its function now

9th October 2006, 03:39 PM	#1
fenlander Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62	Last of the small knife pics The final knife of the three small knives. Attached Images

10th October 2006, 06:23 AM	#3
fenlander Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62	Scott Riddel and phillip Thom Do you happen to know what are there member names on this forum as don't seem to be able to find them ? p.s. Sure Ian, if i want to find a home for for those puppies then you'll be the first to know and I'll pm you

10th October 2006, 06:31 AM	#4
fenlander Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62	Scott Riddel Scot Riddel seems like he would be the man to know about this Chinese sword. Unfortunately his web site does not seem to have an e-mail address contact, or I can't see it on there. I am starting to like this Chinese sword. I actually study wing chun kung fu so I am handy with the butterfly swords and this has a similar kind of feel. Got some real weight to it I guess because it is bronze. Attached Images

10th October 2006, 01:58 PM	#6
fenlander Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62	Thanks I sent a pm to Phillip. Thank for the help.

10th October 2006, 11:39 PM	#7
fenlander Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62	fenlander Hi I actually in the end find out by myself what it is through a book. It is either a genuine or a copy of an early dynasty brass chariot sword. I guess it is a later re-make but then again you never know. I will take it to the Chinese palace museum to let them see if it is origical or a re-make, i guess a re-make but jsut a small chance it is original, that would make it over a thousand years old! But hardly likely. Still at least i know its function now

10th October 2006, 01:41 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,395	I'm not seeing Scott in our member's list these days. However, Philip Thom is listed here as "Philip" -- you can contact him by using the PM function or send him an e-mail by going to his Member page and clicking on the e-mail link. Philip can also tell you how to contact Scott by e-mail. Scott's site presently has no e-mail information -- appears he has been updating it recently. Ian.