Balatos -- swords with balls

David · 21st September 2006, 06:30 PM

Wow, beautiful sword! I especially love the intricately carved hilt on this one.

If it were me Bill, i would take Barry's advice, restore what's there, but don't add to it.
Great photo. I really dig those crazy battle vests they wear.

Dajak · 21st September 2006, 07:16 PM

Hi they look nice but how old you think these are

utami · 29th September 2006, 01:35 AM

Bill you have 4 balato's, Nice collection

i do agree with david and Barry's advice, " restore what's there, but don't add to it." Your the current balato already a piece of beauty

imho, seem to me the pieces is early 19th

Cyclura99 · 4th October 2006, 09:02 AM

NIAS Swords are NOT OLD as in 19th c ... Not even close .....

Cy

Dajak · 4th October 2006, 09:44 AM

I have to agree with Cyclura99 none of these Nias swords is before 1950

Bill M · 4th October 2006, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclura99

NIAS Swords are NOT OLD as in 19th c ... Not even close .....

Cy

Hi Chris,

Good to see you posting here. Perhaps you would care to share some of your expertise in Nias artifacts. I am sure that the people on this Forum would like an in-depth post on Balato and other Nias weapons and artifacts.

I find the Balatos of marginal interest, but I'd bet that you have some outstanding examples. Why don't you post a few?

How are the lizards?

Warmest regards,
Bill

Cyclura99 · 4th October 2006, 09:55 PM

I do not see the point of buying and or collectiong FAKE, REPRODUCTION and or REPLACEMENT - Dance swords - that were made late 1950-80's made for the Nias dances for the vistiting tourists .

I thought the point of collecting ethnographic weapons was to aquire the best examples of a specific culture.That were used in a tribal context used tribaly 19th c or very early 20th c examples when the NIAS culture in the south was still present ie headhuting was still occuring , and all other aspects of the culture.

As far as posting pictures maybe but I am thru sending pictures of items for sale when all one wants to do is picture collect. Or get others opinions before one can make a decsion on if one should buy the item or not.In my opinion if a person has to get opinions of others inorder to buy an item that person does not belong in the game of collecting .

Just my humble opinion.

Cy

Bill M · 4th October 2006, 10:04 PM

[B]Still you say, but you do not show. IF you have such knowledge and such good pieces, why do you not post them, and some knowledge and educate us instead of this kind of posting?

And if you do not like what is here, why don't you just pass on down the salad bar?

But how are your lizards? Got any pictures?

4th October 2006, 09:02 AM	#4
Cyclura99 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 15	Balatos NIAS Swords are NOT OLD as in 19th c ... Not even close ..... Cy

4th October 2006, 09:55 PM	#7
Cyclura99 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 15	Balatos I do not see the point of buying and or collectiong FAKE, REPRODUCTION and or REPLACEMENT - Dance swords - that were made late 1950-80's made for the Nias dances for the vistiting tourists . I thought the point of collecting ethnographic weapons was to aquire the best examples of a specific culture.That were used in a tribal context used tribaly 19th c or very early 20th c examples when the NIAS culture in the south was still present ie headhuting was still occuring , and all other aspects of the culture. As far as posting pictures maybe but I am thru sending pictures of items for sale when all one wants to do is picture collect. Or get others opinions before one can make a decsion on if one should buy the item or not.In my opinion if a person has to get opinions of others inorder to buy an item that person does not belong in the game of collecting . Just my humble opinion. Cy

21st September 2006, 06:30 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Wow, beautiful sword! I especially love the intricately carved hilt on this one. If it were me Bill, i would take Barry's advice, restore what's there, but don't add to it. Great photo. I really dig those crazy battle vests they wear.

21st September 2006, 07:16 PM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi they look nice but how old you think these are

29th September 2006, 01:35 AM	#3
utami Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Java, Indonesia Posts: 49	Bill you have 4 balato's, Nice collection i do agree with david and Barry's advice, " restore what's there, but don't add to it." Your the current balato already a piece of beauty imho, seem to me the pieces is early 19th

4th October 2006, 09:44 AM	#5
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	I have to agree with Cyclura99 none of these Nias swords is before 1950

4th October 2006, 10:04 PM	#8
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	[B]Still you say, but you do not show. IF you have such knowledge and such good pieces, why do you not post them, and some knowledge and educate us instead of this kind of posting? And if you do not like what is here, why don't you just pass on down the salad bar? But how are your lizards? Got any pictures?