Cambodian Kris !

BluErf · 4th December 2004, 11:45 PM

If there are indeed Cambodian kerises, I would imagine that they are more akin to the Pattani/Yala/Narathiwat/Kelantan style of kerises by logic of its relative proximity to these areas. However, the 2 examples we see are not anything like kerises from those areas, even without the benefit of seeing the ganja.

It is also true that identifying the origins of a keris depends a lot on the handle, but the sheath is even more important, IMHO. We don't have the sheath, unfortunately.

Were the kerises trade blades brought into Cambodia or were they forged locally using local materials? If done locally, wouldn't they have a higher chance of being the pamorless type?

The last thing I want to say is that the handles look awkward on the kerises, especially the curved ones. The lines 'just don't flow'. I think there's a very high chance that they are later additions.

Kiai Carita · 29th April 2005, 04:11 PM

Raden Patah who founded the first Javanese Islamic court was a Majapahit prince from a Cambodian mother (Champa). Cambodian iron is also noted by Javanese Mpu as having specific spiritual qualities. I think that the keris might have reached Cambodia during the Majapahit reign. As the original hilt broke the Cambodian owner made a Cambodian hilt for it.

Salam Keris

4th December 2004, 11:45 PM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	If there are indeed Cambodian kerises, I would imagine that they are more akin to the Pattani/Yala/Narathiwat/Kelantan style of kerises by logic of its relative proximity to these areas. However, the 2 examples we see are not anything like kerises from those areas, even without the benefit of seeing the ganja. It is also true that identifying the origins of a keris depends a lot on the handle, but the sheath is even more important, IMHO. We don't have the sheath, unfortunately. Were the kerises trade blades brought into Cambodia or were they forged locally using local materials? If done locally, wouldn't they have a higher chance of being the pamorless type? The last thing I want to say is that the handles look awkward on the kerises, especially the curved ones. The lines 'just don't flow'. I think there's a very high chance that they are later additions.

29th April 2005, 04:11 PM	#2
Kiai Carita Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 91	Raden Patah who founded the first Javanese Islamic court was a Majapahit prince from a Cambodian mother (Champa). Cambodian iron is also noted by Javanese Mpu as having specific spiritual qualities. I think that the keris might have reached Cambodia during the Majapahit reign. As the original hilt broke the Cambodian owner made a Cambodian hilt for it. Salam Keris