Weapon Design Project

Battara · 29th August 2006, 07:40 PM

Just for clarification, I am a professional amatuer.

I did the routine to indiginous PI music. Fun and flashy (and apparently dangerous

).

son of oaf · 30th August 2006, 10:13 AM

okay..(hopefully) here is a pic of one of the training blades.

simple barong with rounded edges for safety, mirror finished with a fake edge.

a second version of this design was made with a para-cord wrap handle, no polish and no fake edge, purely for harder training. it's took a bit of a battering but served me well for a good six months now.

the designs we have so far are pretty simple, taken from live blades or books.

anyone interested in this collaboration idea?
i can run designs past my mate, we'll pick a few and make them. keep you all posted on progress, training etc. should be a hoot...

thanks again for your time guys

Battara · 30th August 2006, 06:39 PM

That is really nice and unique - using the older blade form of the barung. I like it. Looks right in proportions too.

VANDOO · 30th August 2006, 06:55 PM

THE BARONG IS CERTINALY MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR A DEMONSTRATION THAN A WOODEN OR RUBBER KNIFE. THE BALANCE OF COURSE WOULD BE LIGHT AS FAR AS THE BLADE GOES BUT THE NICE WOODEN HANDLE WOULD GIVE A GRIP LIKE THE REAL WEAPON WHICH THE WEBBING GRIP WOULD NOT DUPLICATE AS WELL. THEY SHOULD WORK WELL FOR DEMONSTRATION AND TRAINING AND BE FLASHY TO WATCH, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T MAKE A NOISE LIKE A ALUMINUM BASEBALL BAT ON CONTACT

I THINK I WOULD TRY AND MAKE A SET OF THE BASIC FORMS OF MORO WEAPONS FIRST KEEPING IT SIMPLE AS YOU HAVE WITH THE BARONG. FOR TRAINING PURPOSES THE BASIC FORMS WILL PROBABLY BE ENOUGH BUT A FEW MODIFIED TYPES MIGHT BE USED FOR DEMONSTRATIONS. THERE ARE MANY OTHER VARIATIONS OF THE FORMS AS WELL AS TYPES THAT HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED BY SOCIETYS FROM OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES. YOU MENTIONED A CUSTOM ORDER OF A PHILIPPINE KNIFE WITH A BUILT IN KNUCKLE DUSTER. I HAVE AN OLD EXAMPLE OF THAT TYPE SO ODD CUSTOM WEAPONS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.

son of oaf · 31st August 2006, 10:30 AM

hi

thanks for the feedback guys. i'm sure my buddy (bri) will be over the moon with all the compliments.
currently there are maybe three or four diferent types of barong, a couple of basic bolos, a kampilan and a few small knives, daggers and kerambits in the collection.

excellent re: "knuckle duster barong"..that's really cool! there's just nothing people haven't already tried is there!? i'd love to see a pic!

the mirror finished ones could pass muster for a demo, but we don't ever do them. i know some people just want a mirror polish on their trainers 'cos it looks good. others buy them and hang them on their wall!

we also have simpler, non polished corded versions that are more like the standard training blades for actually bashing together, sparing drills and work on the tyres etc.
i'll put up a pitcture when i bring one back from the gym.

so...anyone got any items in their collections that they would like to see training blade versions of?
i don't know what the best policy is here..i don't want to hassle people with stuff i like the look of..i'd love for it to be more of a collaboration thing..
anything and everything is of interest, completely different weapons, handles, blade shapes etc...
whaddya think?

just out of interest: here's a pic of a custom sword (one of a pair) made for a girl who does krabi krabong. bri ended up using a banister rail for the handles (still split with an aluminium core like the barong) and we got custom leather wraps made for the grips). bri is currently working on a more authentic handle for a second set.

cheers

son of oaf · 31st August 2006, 10:36 AM

hi,

sorry VANDOO.. i meant to reply a section of your post and forgot.
you suggested that we started with a basic set of moro weapons.
what did you have in mind?
please don't be afraid of offending me...assume i'm REALLY ignorant

you won't go far wrong.

i'd love to hear your ideas.

if you (or anyone) would rather pm or email me, please feel free.

i'm up for any suggestions or ideas, feedback or abuse!

thanks

katana · 2nd September 2006, 03:40 PM

Hi, Son of Oaf......you may find this interesting....

http://www.rsw.com.hk/activities.htm

son of oaf · 3rd September 2006, 10:44 AM

thanks katana

fascinating stuff.
i hadn't come across this before.
i'm off to re-read in more depth
groovy

thanks again

30th August 2006, 10:13 AM	#2
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	okay..(hopefully) here is a pic of one of the training blades. simple barong with rounded edges for safety, mirror finished with a fake edge. a second version of this design was made with a para-cord wrap handle, no polish and no fake edge, purely for harder training. it's took a bit of a battering but served me well for a good six months now. the designs we have so far are pretty simple, taken from live blades or books. anyone interested in this collaboration idea? i can run designs past my mate, we'll pick a few and make them. keep you all posted on progress, training etc. should be a hoot... thanks again for your time guys Attached Images

31st August 2006, 10:30 AM	#5
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	hi thanks for the feedback guys. i'm sure my buddy (bri) will be over the moon with all the compliments. currently there are maybe three or four diferent types of barong, a couple of basic bolos, a kampilan and a few small knives, daggers and kerambits in the collection. excellent re: "knuckle duster barong"..that's really cool! there's just nothing people haven't already tried is there!? i'd love to see a pic! the mirror finished ones could pass muster for a demo, but we don't ever do them. i know some people just want a mirror polish on their trainers 'cos it looks good. others buy them and hang them on their wall! we also have simpler, non polished corded versions that are more like the standard training blades for actually bashing together, sparing drills and work on the tyres etc. i'll put up a pitcture when i bring one back from the gym. so...anyone got any items in their collections that they would like to see training blade versions of? i don't know what the best policy is here..i don't want to hassle people with stuff i like the look of..i'd love for it to be more of a collaboration thing.. anything and everything is of interest, completely different weapons, handles, blade shapes etc... whaddya think? just out of interest: here's a pic of a custom sword (one of a pair) made for a girl who does krabi krabong. bri ended up using a banister rail for the handles (still split with an aluminium core like the barong) and we got custom leather wraps made for the grips). bri is currently working on a more authentic handle for a second set. cheers Attached Images

29th August 2006, 07:40 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Just for clarification, I am a professional amatuer. I did the routine to indiginous PI music. Fun and flashy (and apparently dangerous ).

30th August 2006, 06:39 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	That is really nice and unique - using the older blade form of the barung. I like it. Looks right in proportions too.

30th August 2006, 06:55 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE BARONG IS CERTINALY MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR A DEMONSTRATION THAN A WOODEN OR RUBBER KNIFE. THE BALANCE OF COURSE WOULD BE LIGHT AS FAR AS THE BLADE GOES BUT THE NICE WOODEN HANDLE WOULD GIVE A GRIP LIKE THE REAL WEAPON WHICH THE WEBBING GRIP WOULD NOT DUPLICATE AS WELL. THEY SHOULD WORK WELL FOR DEMONSTRATION AND TRAINING AND BE FLASHY TO WATCH, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T MAKE A NOISE LIKE A ALUMINUM BASEBALL BAT ON CONTACT I THINK I WOULD TRY AND MAKE A SET OF THE BASIC FORMS OF MORO WEAPONS FIRST KEEPING IT SIMPLE AS YOU HAVE WITH THE BARONG. FOR TRAINING PURPOSES THE BASIC FORMS WILL PROBABLY BE ENOUGH BUT A FEW MODIFIED TYPES MIGHT BE USED FOR DEMONSTRATIONS. THERE ARE MANY OTHER VARIATIONS OF THE FORMS AS WELL AS TYPES THAT HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED BY SOCIETYS FROM OUTSIDE THE PHILIPPINES. YOU MENTIONED A CUSTOM ORDER OF A PHILIPPINE KNIFE WITH A BUILT IN KNUCKLE DUSTER. I HAVE AN OLD EXAMPLE OF THAT TYPE SO ODD CUSTOM WEAPONS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.

31st August 2006, 10:36 AM	#6
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	hi, sorry VANDOO.. i meant to reply a section of your post and forgot. you suggested that we started with a basic set of moro weapons. what did you have in mind? please don't be afraid of offending me...assume i'm REALLY ignorant you won't go far wrong. i'd love to hear your ideas. if you (or anyone) would rather pm or email me, please feel free. i'm up for any suggestions or ideas, feedback or abuse! thanks

2nd September 2006, 03:40 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi, Son of Oaf......you may find this interesting.... http://www.rsw.com.hk/activities.htm

3rd September 2006, 10:44 AM	#8
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	thanks katana fascinating stuff. i hadn't come across this before. i'm off to re-read in more depth groovy thanks again