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KRMH Triadi · 25th August 2006, 05:43 AM

Thank you Alam

That's the reason I need to know sorrounding keris pusaka, it is my family pusaka, and I am waiting for my "communication" with my pusaka, whether he could be shown to public or not. Ki Ageng Pamulung Panembung Catur should gave me a sign pretty soon about it (thats the keris soul). For every Suro ceremony, the Keraton always clean all the Keraton Pusaka, but the very powerfull ones cannot be shown to public but only to the people that has been sworn for secrecy by the king (so far I know only 7 people). Those that are considerate "just" powerful I have seen it during some ceremonies. Thank you for the information. I will try to have more detailed pics regarding my keris.
Best regards

Henk · 25th August 2006, 09:47 AM

Triadi,

Welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing your keris. I've seen such keris before and I do like this appearance.

I do remember that such a keris dapur has been discussed before in the forum. If i remeber well it was said that those dapurs were made later in the kerisblade to make it more attractive and also to sell to the tourists.

If i count well you are the fifth generation holding this keris. Was this dapur made originally when your great, greatgrandfather received this keris? Or was this dapur added later to the keris? Does your family know?

KRMH Triadi · 25th August 2006, 12:20 PM

Hi Henk,
Thank you for your comment, but unfortunately the history of this keris is rather uncertain. I am the 11th generation of the first Mangkunegaran, Pangeran Samber Nyowo, patih/prime minister to the king of Mataram and the story told was this keris had been around finding its way back to the family ever since, then again I am not sure for the story (it's a good story I can tell my grandchildren to...hehe). But the fact is, the lower part of the keris was not added in a later time. Nothing added to the keris, since my family was not an empu's family. Even the pamor itself is the prabu Hayam Wuruk (some told). Again, I will share any information regarding my keris in the future.
Best regards

Henk · 25th August 2006, 01:52 PM

Triadi,

That means if nothing is added to this keris or changed that this is an true excisting old dapur made some centuries ago.

Of course I'm convinced that kerisblades today are changed in this dapur for export purposes because it is an atractive appearance, but is there a more knowledgeable member who can tell us more about this dapur?

25th August 2006, 05:43 AM	#1
KRMH Triadi Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 7	Thank you Alam That's the reason I need to know sorrounding keris pusaka, it is my family pusaka, and I am waiting for my "communication" with my pusaka, whether he could be shown to public or not. Ki Ageng Pamulung Panembung Catur should gave me a sign pretty soon about it (thats the keris soul). For every Suro ceremony, the Keraton always clean all the Keraton Pusaka, but the very powerfull ones cannot be shown to public but only to the people that has been sworn for secrecy by the king (so far I know only 7 people). Those that are considerate "just" powerful I have seen it during some ceremonies. Thank you for the information. I will try to have more detailed pics regarding my keris. Best regards

25th August 2006, 09:47 AM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Triadi, Welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing your keris. I've seen such keris before and I do like this appearance. I do remember that such a keris dapur has been discussed before in the forum. If i remeber well it was said that those dapurs were made later in the kerisblade to make it more attractive and also to sell to the tourists. If i count well you are the fifth generation holding this keris. Was this dapur made originally when your great, greatgrandfather received this keris? Or was this dapur added later to the keris? Does your family know?

25th August 2006, 12:20 PM	#3
KRMH Triadi Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 7	Hi Henk, Thank you for your comment, but unfortunately the history of this keris is rather uncertain. I am the 11th generation of the first Mangkunegaran, Pangeran Samber Nyowo, patih/prime minister to the king of Mataram and the story told was this keris had been around finding its way back to the family ever since, then again I am not sure for the story (it's a good story I can tell my grandchildren to...hehe). But the fact is, the lower part of the keris was not added in a later time. Nothing added to the keris, since my family was not an empu's family. Even the pamor itself is the prabu Hayam Wuruk (some told). Again, I will share any information regarding my keris in the future. Best regards

25th August 2006, 01:52 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Triadi, That means if nothing is added to this keris or changed that this is an true excisting old dapur made some centuries ago. Of course I'm convinced that kerisblades today are changed in this dapur for export purposes because it is an atractive appearance, but is there a more knowledgeable member who can tell us more about this dapur?