Barung(s) for you

MABAGANI · 2nd February 2005, 05:40 PM

Huun, barung taymanghud usug

engar · 4th February 2005, 12:02 AM

Mabagani, can you speak a little about the traditional use of barong?
Thanks.

MABAGANI · 4th February 2005, 06:55 AM

Sworn to secrecy...not to offend, but traditional combative arts from Mindanao and Sulu are handed down generation to generation within families and protected. Ask any Moro who knows and they would not readily display it, their fighting arts have kept them safe for centuries and are held in confidence and cherished, one of the reasons why when I see people use a barung, or kris or kampilan for that matter and say this is how its used and they show me their eskrima or arnis moves I wonder why they try to pass it on as truth...

engar · 4th February 2005, 08:47 AM

Don´t worry You didn´t offend me. It´s very difficult find info about Moro fighting skills (silat, kuntao, arnis or whatever). Anyway I don´t know why but info about Luzon and Visaya weapons are very uncommon while you can found a lot of info about Moro weapons easily.

MABAGANI · 4th February 2005, 09:19 AM

Keep seeking Engar, I've been persistent for decades searching for real teachers and have been fortunate. Have you checked out the Moro and Philippine weaponry at the museums there in Spain? A few years ago Marc showed me pics from some of the collections. I travelled to Spain in '99, toured the Alhambra and several cities, but there was no time to trek the museums, good reason to go back some day.

engar · 4th February 2005, 09:52 AM

Keep seeking Engar, I've been persistent for decades searching for real teachers and have been fortunate.
If it´s hard to find good teachers in the Philippines try to imagine outside Philippines (and USA). Spanish have the bigger philippino community in Europe and I haven´t notice about any philippino FMA teacher (apart from any fraud of the past).
The Spanish Army museum have a very good Philippine weaponry collection, I want to go after I´ll finish my exams and my vacation

if you are interested I´ll send you the pics.
Then if you come back some day I´ll show you Madrid

MABAGANI · 4th February 2005, 01:43 PM

Yes, if you go to major cities in Europe, you'll find Filipinos hanging out in the main squares especially on the weekends.
Do share pics and if you don't mind take shots of Moro cannons and battle flags too, with over three centuries of fighting I'd expect their museums would have much to show, even early drawings of ships are found there.

4th February 2005, 06:55 AM	#3
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Sworn to secrecy...not to offend, but traditional combative arts from Mindanao and Sulu are handed down generation to generation within families and protected. Ask any Moro who knows and they would not readily display it, their fighting arts have kept them safe for centuries and are held in confidence and cherished, one of the reasons why when I see people use a barung, or kris or kampilan for that matter and say this is how its used and they show me their eskrima or arnis moves I wonder why they try to pass it on as truth... Last edited by MABAGANI; 4th February 2005 at 07:08 AM.

4th February 2005, 09:19 AM	#5
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Keep seeking Engar, I've been persistent for decades searching for real teachers and have been fortunate. Have you checked out the Moro and Philippine weaponry at the museums there in Spain? A few years ago Marc showed me pics from some of the collections. I travelled to Spain in '99, toured the Alhambra and several cities, but there was no time to trek the museums, good reason to go back some day. Last edited by MABAGANI; 4th February 2005 at 09:38 AM.

2nd February 2005, 05:40 PM	#1
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Huun, barung taymanghud usug

4th February 2005, 12:02 AM	#2
engar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 14	Mabagani, can you speak a little about the traditional use of barong? Thanks.

4th February 2005, 08:47 AM	#4
engar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 14	Don´t worry You didn´t offend me. It´s very difficult find info about Moro fighting skills (silat, kuntao, arnis or whatever). Anyway I don´t know why but info about Luzon and Visaya weapons are very uncommon while you can found a lot of info about Moro weapons easily.

4th February 2005, 09:52 AM	#6
engar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 14	Keep seeking Engar, I've been persistent for decades searching for real teachers and have been fortunate. If it´s hard to find good teachers in the Philippines try to imagine outside Philippines (and USA). Spanish have the bigger philippino community in Europe and I haven´t notice about any philippino FMA teacher (apart from any fraud of the past). The Spanish Army museum have a very good Philippine weaponry collection, I want to go after I´ll finish my exams and my vacation if you are interested I´ll send you the pics. Then if you come back some day I´ll show you Madrid

4th February 2005, 01:43 PM	#7
MABAGANI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 221	Yes, if you go to major cities in Europe, you'll find Filipinos hanging out in the main squares especially on the weekends. Do share pics and if you don't mind take shots of Moro cannons and battle flags too, with over three centuries of fighting I'd expect their museums would have much to show, even early drawings of ships are found there.