Tenegre Nose Job

Ian · 21st September 2025, 11:26 AM

Very nice sword. Lousy seller. Glad you got your money back. That often does not happen.

werecow · 21st September 2025, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

Very nice sword. Lousy seller. Glad you got your money back. That often does not happen.

Yeah, that has also happened to me before. Thankfully in this case I had pay insurance through todocoleccion. It just took another week or two of them trying to pressure him to follow through with the sale (which was obviously not going to happen since he presumably no longer had the sword in his possession), but in the end they refunded me in full.

I wouldn't have been so pissed off with him if he had just been honest and canceled the sale once he got a better offer, but he chose to lie repeatedly, and given that he had a new account on both platforms and it looks a lot like he was shill bidding on catawiki (which frankly enables this by allowing sellers to offer their lots to the next highest bidder) I suspect this is a habit for him. Buyer beware.

Sajen · 21st September 2025, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by werecow

Yeah, that has also happened to me before. Thankfully in this case I had pay insurance through todocoleccion. It just took another week or two of them trying to pressure him to follow through with the sale (which was obviously not going to happen since he presumably no longer had the sword in his possession), but in the end they refunded me in full.

I wouldn't have been so pissed off with him if he had just been honest and canceled the sale once he got a better offer, but he chose to lie repeatedly, and given that he had a new account on both platforms and it looks a lot like he was shill bidding on catawiki (which frankly enables this by allowing sellers to offer their lots to the next highest bidder) I suspect this is a habit for him. Buyer beware.

I can understand your anger very well! BTW, beautiful tenegre.

werecow · 22nd September 2025, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

I can understand your anger very well! BTW, beautiful tenegre.

Yeah, it would've been nice, but oh well. I hope someone else on these boards is currently enjoying it and taking good care of it!

Battara · 22nd September 2025, 08:27 PM

Sorry Werecow. That was a nice piece indeed (one I'd like to own).

Back to the subject at hand:

There is a debate in the community going on for decades of restore or not restore. Some want it as is, where others (me, Charles, others) like a piece restored (which is why I restore antique weaponry and armor).

It's up to you.

BTW - I restored one like yours Clemfandango a few years ago.

werecow · 22nd September 2025, 09:49 PM

Personally I don't mind small restorations or cleaning as long as they are

honestly documented,
fitting with the style of the original,
don't alter the handling characteristics or change important features (like removing markings), and
are non-destructive as much as possible (with the understanding that in some cases you can't very well keep the original, e.g. restoring a grip that has just a tiny remainder of rotting wood left on it), and
preferably reversible if possible.

But I really don't like it when I find out I've bought a fantasy composite of old (and new) parts after the fact, or when people take apart old swords that are still largely intact in order to harvest parts.

In this case I don't think I would mind knowing that either the nose or some of the silver was a replacement (but I would personally keep it as it is since I quite like it and I don't feel the missing bits detract from it).

ClemFandango · 22nd September 2025, 11:10 PM

Thank you both for your thoughts and insight. Fair points to consider. I have a lot of research to do before attempting any kind of restoration work.

Btw Battara, how did you end up restoring that tenegre if I may ask?

22nd September 2025, 09:49 PM	#6
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 611	Personally I don't mind small restorations or cleaning as long as they are honestly documented, fitting with the style of the original, don't alter the handling characteristics or change important features (like removing markings), and are non-destructive as much as possible (with the understanding that in some cases you can't very well keep the original, e.g. restoring a grip that has just a tiny remainder of rotting wood left on it), and preferably reversible if possible. But I really don't like it when I find out I've bought a fantasy composite of old (and new) parts after the fact, or when people take apart old swords that are still largely intact in order to harvest parts. In this case I don't think I would mind knowing that either the nose or some of the silver was a replacement (but I would personally keep it as it is since I quite like it and I don't feel the missing bits detract from it).

21st September 2025, 11:26 AM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,478	Very nice sword. Lousy seller. Glad you got your money back. That often does not happen.

22nd September 2025, 08:27 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,339	Sorry Werecow. That was a nice piece indeed (one I'd like to own). Back to the subject at hand: There is a debate in the community going on for decades of restore or not restore. Some want it as is, where others (me, Charles, others) like a piece restored (which is why I restore antique weaponry and armor). It's up to you. BTW - I restored one like yours Clemfandango a few years ago.

22nd September 2025, 11:10 PM	#7
ClemFandango Member Join Date: Nov 2024 Posts: 6	Thank you both for your thoughts and insight. Fair points to consider. I have a lot of research to do before attempting any kind of restoration work. Btw Battara, how did you end up restoring that tenegre if I may ask?