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Old 11th December 2024, 02:19 PM   #1
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My son in law owns this sword which he thinks belonged to a great uncle who served in India.
Clearly a sabre therefore likely a cavalry troop I suppose.
There are various engravings which need explanation.
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Old 11th December 2024, 06:49 PM   #2
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Late Imperial Russian officer's saber. Perhaps a shaskha, officers, 1909 pattern. Very nice.

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Old 11th December 2024, 08:32 PM   #3
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On spine (abbreviated): Zlatoust arms factory, on blade monogram of Nikolai II.
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Old 11th December 2024, 10:16 PM   #4
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On spine (abbreviated): Zlatoust arms factory, on blade monogram of Nikolai II.
I am not an expert on Russian bladed weapons.

IMHO it looks like a dragoon officer's shaskha mod. 1909, but I don't like a number of things:
- the scabbard is not original, it is from a soldier's saber with a bayonet mount;
- I don't like the inscription on the butt: Zlatoust Arms Factory

For a more qualified attribution, it is necessary to involve specialists in Russian shaskhas.
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Old 13th December 2024, 12:37 AM   #5
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Here is the original inscription on the blade spine.
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Old 13th December 2024, 02:30 PM   #6
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Many thanks for the information .
I will try and find an expert on Shaskas.

I suppose that these weapons quite often got separated from their original scabbard and indeed the original owner !
My son in law thinks there was a connection to India, seems a bit odd , but Russia was certainly trying to increase their influence there at the end of the 19th century as I understand it.

I would be glad of any further thoughts, of course.
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Many thanks for the information .
I will try and find an expert on Shaskas.

I suppose that these weapons quite often got separated from their original scabbard and indeed the original owner !
My son in law thinks there was a connection to India, seems a bit odd , but Russia was certainly trying to increase their influence there at the end of the 19th century as I understand it.

I would be glad of any further thoughts, of course.
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