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Old 9th November 2024, 03:57 PM   #1
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Thanks Jim, perhaps I should have focussed more on the "Heinrich Brabender" blade.
So "Heinrich Brabender" is a bit like the "Enrique Coel" name on blades that is the name is used for over more than 100 years by different makers for economic reasons.
Enrique Coel is still found on 18th c shiavonas and in the case of "Heinrich Brabender" the youngest version i saw was on a high quality cup hilt and high quality blade signed "Heinrich Brabender" it was around 1730- 1750 'ish probably made for the Spanish Collonies.
The Oldest "Heinrich Brabender" i had in my hands was an early version Pappenheimer rapier circa 1620-30.
The blade here in the bollock dagger is an early version , the younger ones are more simple in geometry.
As we know blade maker names being used for more than 100 years is not unique, the name that comes to mind is bladesmith Andrea Ferrara Italian active in Belluno, active between 1550–1583 and the blades on which this name is found most on is on Scottisch basket hilts some up until the late 18th century. Perhaps this answers the question more complete.
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Old 9th November 2024, 06:05 PM   #2
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Excellent!!! This is the kind of stuff that cannot be found in books! only through many years of handling weapons and astutely noticing the differences that occur in various elements, blades in particular. This is because the blades tend to remain in circulation while hilts often are replaced for various reasons. As noted by AVB Norman (1980), changes in fashion or alignment with local favorite styles in relocation are often common.

I wonder if, as you note, the simpler geometry in blade design might come from the fact that fewer blades in production in earlier times allowed smiths to be more detailed, as their craft was truly artisan oriented?
Later, production dictated more volume and less time for more elaborate detail?
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Old 9th November 2024, 06:20 PM   #3
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Excellent!!! This is the kind of stuff that cannot be found in books! only through many years of handling weapons and astutely noticing the differences that occur in various elements, blades in particular. This is because the blades tend to remain in circulation while hilts often are replaced for various reasons. As noted by AVB Norman (1980), changes in fashion or alignment with local favorite styles in relocation are often common.

I wonder if, as you note, the simpler geometry in blade design might come from the fact that fewer blades in production in earlier times allowed smiths to be more detailed, as their craft was truly artisan oriented?
Later, production dictated more volume and less time for more elaborate detail?
This might seem a question one can never answer with 100% certainty, but when we approach the question keeping in mind human nature the answer is economics, making a profit . Its the same with most if not all products now that there are cheeper simpeler versions , or versions made in another country because it was cheaper and for the noble man who wanted to spend more money there were better more elaborate blades and guards.
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