Karabela? Persian? Balkan?

S.Al-Anizi · 15th July 2006, 05:28 AM

Nice sword. Interesting to see the star of david (seal of solomon) on a Persian blade. I dont think the persian shiism used this mark. It was more connected to the Ottoman sunni empire, and its arab lands.

Valjhun · 15th July 2006, 12:33 PM

Yes, I agree, the "david" strar is ottoma, maybe even caucasus. Reminds me of some shashka blade, but the hilt is persian I think.

ariel · 15th July 2006, 01:53 PM

Caucasian "shashka" blades were widely exported to as far as Oman in the 19th century (the origin of curve-bladed Kattaras).
But this one doesn't strike me as Caucasian.

Battara · 15th July 2006, 08:12 PM

Nice silver work. The silver content seems to be coin silver, about 80% silver to 20% copper.

eftihis · 18th July 2006, 11:37 AM

In the very interesting post of Rivkin regarding Georgian arms on page 6 (i cannot copy here the photo), there is a photo of a Chesvur(?) sword (first from the right) that althougth is not all visible, resembles this one.
It has 2 fullers one more wide like this, and a deep "star" althought with more points, on the blade.

ariel · 18th July 2006, 01:01 PM

Hey, Eftihis,
Just now noticed you are from Crete. Look up Stathis Papavasiliou in Iraklion. He is a Prof. of Medicine at the University of Crete. To say he is just a good friend of mine would be an understatement of the year!

18th July 2006, 11:37 AM	#5
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 511	Arms of Georgian kings by Rivkin In the very interesting post of Rivkin regarding Georgian arms on page 6 (i cannot copy here the photo), there is a photo of a Chesvur(?) sword (first from the right) that althougth is not all visible, resembles this one. It has 2 fullers one more wide like this, and a deep "star" althought with more points, on the blade.

15th July 2006, 05:28 AM	#1
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	Nice sword. Interesting to see the star of david (seal of solomon) on a Persian blade. I dont think the persian shiism used this mark. It was more connected to the Ottoman sunni empire, and its arab lands.

15th July 2006, 12:33 PM	#2
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Yes, I agree, the "david" strar is ottoma, maybe even caucasus. Reminds me of some shashka blade, but the hilt is persian I think.

15th July 2006, 01:53 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Caucasian "shashka" blades were widely exported to as far as Oman in the 19th century (the origin of curve-bladed Kattaras). But this one doesn't strike me as Caucasian.

15th July 2006, 08:12 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Nice silver work. The silver content seems to be coin silver, about 80% silver to 20% copper.

18th July 2006, 01:01 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Hey, Eftihis, Just now noticed you are from Crete. Look up Stathis Papavasiliou in Iraklion. He is a Prof. of Medicine at the University of Crete. To say he is just a good friend of mine would be an understatement of the year!