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Unfortunately, the good books on the subject are in a language incomprehensible to English speakers
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The book of Yuri Miller, Caucasian Arms from the State Hermitage Museum, St Petersburg is in Danish/English language is highly recommended and should be readable for everyone here
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Which books are these you refer to? I believe Kirill Rivkin is well versed in most references of other languages referrjng to these weapons. This is why his book is so valuable, he has access and understanding of a considerable number of the 'good books' you allude to. His book is FAR from general ideas on this topic and THAT is why I recommended it. As Udo has noted, the book by Yuri Miller which has both Danish and English languages in text is also excellent. I believe many of the 'good books' you refer to are likely in Rivkin's bibliography, but am curious to know which books you refer to. Actually some years ago when researching these topics, many of us actually had references translated! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Here are several books dedicated to the topic. Some are comprehensive studies, others partially touch on the issue ![]() |
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Personally, I prefer Rivkin's books to those of the late Astvatsaturian. Miller's book is just a catalogue. For a book on the subject in English, I am not aware of a better one than that of Rivkin, but am open to suggestions.
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Of course, everyone has their own preferences. Rivkin's book is more modern and covers Caucasian items from a variety of collections. Astvatsaturyan’s book was written from the collection of only one museum and at a time when the Internet was not yet so widespread, which made the work of researchers difficult. But Astvatsaturyan’s research on ornamental motifs on weapons of different peoples of the Caucasus is undoubtedly unsurpassed. Unfortunately, I don’t know Russian well and read books in Russian using translation applications on my smartphone. But even such a translation allows you to get a lot of interesting and valuable information.
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Of course I believe in broad research sources, which is why I asked for the other books you mentioned, and thank you for sharing the titles and the illustrations of the books. While these are of course not only difficult to acquire here and of course to translate, my point was that certainly Kirill Rivkin has access to these and likely filtered much of the material into his work as applicable. I believe typically authors do share and corroborate data and ideas. Obviously no single resource is entirely relied upon by any responsible researcher, and my endorsement on Mr. Rivkins book was to say it is a most valuable reference which has many details often not available to non Russian speakers. |
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Thank you for your valued assistance and insights. |
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