SCHIAVONA, Napoleonic period (?) FERDINAND IV of Two Sicilies

[corrado26]

From where comes the connection between Portugal and Macedonia?

[fernando]

Originally Posted by corrado26

From where comes the connection between Portugal and Macedonia?

From nowhere, i would say. Why do you ask that, Udo ?

[corrado26]

Because there must have been a reason why there was a regiment called MACEDONIA and I want to know which is the reason for this. And what is the meaning of the blade's signature "PORLAMGDD"? Has this something to do with Portugal?

[fernando]

Originally Posted by corrado26

Because there must have been a reason why there was a regiment called MACEDONIA and I want to know which is the reason for this. And what is the meaning of the blade's signature "PORLAMGDD"? Has this something to do with Portugal?

Sorry Udo, for the lack of attention. It can only be the Spanish motto initials of POR LA GRACIA DE DIOS.

[Jim McDougall]

This schiavona associated with Portugal is intriguing as it reveals the fact that Macedonian forces existed apparently in that country and I am presuming that this was during the Third Coalition. The inscription to Ferdinand IV of course suggests under his command.

While Portugal was apparently involved in the Third Coalition with the other national allies previously noted, wouldnt these Macedonian forces have been under the allegiance to the Portuguese King? I am unclear whether Ferdinand IV's rule included Portugal in this time.

I cannot find any clarification online as all Macedonian history seems focused on ancient periods.

[fernando]

I don't see any connection between with either sword and Portugal. The motto in the blade is Spanish. Fernando IV has never reigned in Portugal !!!


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[Jim McDougall]

Ocean?
Forgive me Fernando, since you were posting this sword I for some reason assumed it was Portuguese, as these are typically your key focus in adding to the perspective of sword types in discussion.

I did not understand what you meant buy the dates dont match?

So its a Macedonia regiment with a Spanish blade, the hilt and blade clearly not homogenous then I obviously misunderstood thinking this was an example in use by units in service of Ferdinand IV. ..much in the manner of my sword posted OP.
So....very nice Ferdinand IV blade.

Absolutely no idea on the hilt, Macedonia, or any details on it.

I do appreciate seeing another blade with Ferdinand IV inscription, Thank you.

[corrado26]

Originally Posted by fernando

Spanish motto initials of POR LA GRACIA DE DIOS.

Many thanks Fernando, now this is clear!