A collection of French pocket pistols

phil.reid · 25th February 2024, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by survtech

This is my collection of French pocket pistols.
First pair are by Jean Aubron of Clissons Nantes
Second pair are by Jean LePage
Al others are by Nicholas-Noël Boutet

I was unsure as to whether this unmarked boxed set I have at the shop were English or French but seeing you box I'm 109% sure there French.

corrado26 · 25th February 2024, 07:19 AM

In most cases it is quite easy to distinguish English from French boxlock pistols. French pistols almost always have a slot in the hammer body into which the slide safety engages and the stock is attached by a pin below the lock cover. English pistols also generally have proof and inspection marks, which is not the case with French variants - although fake stamps can occur here.

survtech · 27th February 2024, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by phil.reid

I was unsure as to whether this unmarked boxed set I have at the shop were English or French but seeing you box I'm 109% sure there French.

British cased pistols are very rarely "French fitted".

My guess would be Belgian.

fernando · 27th February 2024, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by survtech

... My guess would be Belgian.

Amen !

urbanspaceman · 16th March 2024, 01:09 PM

Hello French pistol lovers.
Now that I have your attention, I have a question for you:
does anyone have information about Jean Challeir maker of this hunting pistol (see attached).
I know he/they made arms for aristocrats Count de Clermont, Duke de Bourbon and Prince de Conde; and also that he was made a master in 1758 and operated from Rue Dauphine.
I never see French pistols for sale or auction here in the UK and I've seen no information about Challier other than what I have detailed.
The pistol is in perfect condition and perfect working order; it has a 22cm long barrel with a 15cm(approx.) bore.

urbanspaceman · 16th March 2024, 01:13 PM

Thankfully we now have some very impressive pictures of some very impressive pistols.
I particularly like box-lock actions as well as Queen Anne barrels, and here we have both. Thank-you folks, it is much appreciated.

corrado26 · 16th March 2024, 01:52 PM

Here is what ler Qui est Qui dit

urbanspaceman · 16th March 2024, 03:57 PM

Thank-you. I don't speak French so here is what Google makes of the less obvious or previously established bits.
Inventor of a new way of placing the plate of a rifle which makes it capable of being removed and put back in place in an instant. Approved by the academy 1772 and 1774.
He demonstrates that short rifles carry an equal load, further than long ones and is obliged to collect the lead from those which are separated by an operation simple which is particular to it.
Anyone make any sense of it?

16th March 2024, 01:09 PM	#5
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 616	Late arrival Hello French pistol lovers. Now that I have your attention, I have a question for you: does anyone have information about Jean Challeir maker of this hunting pistol (see attached). I know he/they made arms for aristocrats Count de Clermont, Duke de Bourbon and Prince de Conde; and also that he was made a master in 1758 and operated from Rue Dauphine. I never see French pistols for sale or auction here in the UK and I've seen no information about Challier other than what I have detailed. The pistol is in perfect condition and perfect working order; it has a 22cm long barrel with a 15cm(approx.) bore. Attached Images

16th March 2024, 01:13 PM	#6
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 616	PS Thankfully we now have some very impressive pictures of some very impressive pistols. I particularly like box-lock actions as well as Queen Anne barrels, and here we have both. Thank-you folks, it is much appreciated.

16th March 2024, 01:52 PM	#7
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,231	Here is what ler Qui est Qui dit Attached Images

16th March 2024, 03:57 PM	#8
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 616	translation Thank-you. I don't speak French so here is what Google makes of the less obvious or previously established bits. Inventor of a new way of placing the plate of a rifle which makes it capable of being removed and put back in place in an instant. Approved by the academy 1772 and 1774. He demonstrates that short rifles carry an equal load, further than long ones and is obliged to collect the lead from those which are separated by an operation simple which is particular to it. Anyone make any sense of it?

25th February 2024, 07:19 AM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,231	In most cases it is quite easy to distinguish English from French boxlock pistols. French pistols almost always have a slot in the hammer body into which the slide safety engages and the stock is attached by a pin below the lock cover. English pistols also generally have proof and inspection marks, which is not the case with French variants - although fake stamps can occur here.