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4th February 2024, 07:14 PM
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4th February 2024, 07:27 PM
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as on hussars...it seems to be going back to the Balkans...
Border soldiers or granizars / grenzer...local lads protecting the borders and being a buffer. A little different to the Pandurs but similar in roles and resposibilities. Some reading ; a book by Major General of the Hussars Charles-Emmanuel de Warnery "Remarks On Cavalry " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussar Last edited by gp; 4th February 2024 at 07:46 PM. |
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4th February 2024, 09:04 PM
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some more pics where you can see how the Hussar uniform developed through the centuries and countries...
from Hungary, Serbia, France, to Prussia, Poland and Russia Last edited by gp; 5th February 2024 at 08:35 PM. |
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9th February 2024, 04:13 PM
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This is truly a remarkable thread! and has a wonderfully comprehensive discourse on the 'hussar' phenomenon of the 18th century, the romantic flamboyance of whom, thrilled and intrigued all of Europe.
I will say the introduction title is somewhat misleading with the 'cookie' description, but becomes well understood and placed as we read through the thread. I honestly had never known what a SPEKULATIUS cookie was, but in looking it up......absolutely fascinating! These traditional cookies seem to be part of early Christmas traditions in the Netherlands in the mid 17th century, possibly earlier. The term apparently means 'German spice cookie'  (uh, sweet tooth kickin in!).Children who were well behaved received batches of these cookies in their shoes on the eve of 5th of December, and anxiously would look in the morning for what 'Sinterclaas' would have left for them. With the tales of the hussars rich in the lore of the times, it would be well understood that military tradition and themes would be the subject matter in many things. I think of the 'nutcracker' soldiers. The content of this thread has been more than inspiring, and frankly the baked goods connection here keeps reminding me of schiavona hilt mid European saber c. 1600 (Konipsky & Moudry, 1991. p.21) which has a pommel likened to a pastry from these regions called a 'kosarice'. The esoteric PANDOUR topic is another brought up here that deserves far more attention (as GP has brought into the thread here, #7). Just wanted to thank everyone for the great insights and entries here! Goes to show we never know what contexts will bring us amazing learning on these military themed obscurities. |
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11th February 2024, 11:28 AM
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26th March 2024, 01:25 PM
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for those interested, some more and one of the first husar pics from a drawing book on uniforms 1770 -1796
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26th March 2024, 09:07 PM
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fact that Husars were and are always popular can be seen in the fact that next to dressing kids in their uniform ( I only got a navy sailor one from my granddad when I was 4...☻☻☻ ) can be seen in tiles ( old Dutch one and Italian), vintage commercial for cigarettes from 1963 ...
And although their regiments modernized, BMW instead of a horse and even (DAF) tanks, the horse remains part of their being as can be seen on up to date pics from Denmark, Hungary and a few o0thers |
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