New Member-Help please on 2 18th C sabres

Hanger1 · 13th December 2023, 08:44 PM

Thank you Jim!

I had seen many of your posts and I sincerely appreciate the insight on this topic.

I was sort of coming to that conclusion with so many experts in here, that I figured it would be tough to figure out. It turns out I have ancestors that fought as British regulars, Provincial army during the French and Indian war at Lake George, at the Lexington battle, and then in Vermont as Captains. I just visited there to find the graves and explore their towns.Thus my foray into this. I love these swords, almost as much as some of my prized nihonto, but certainly more of a “connection”. Nihonto has a mind boggling amount of information to learn just to get going so I have a ton of vested interest there.

I did get Neuman’s book, and I have the “Armes Blanche” on the way just to poke around. Thanks so much and I have really enjoyed your well detailed posts. I learned a lot from you.

Great site here.

Best,

Jeff

Jim McDougall · 14th December 2023, 09:34 AM

Jeff, that is wonderful that you have found personal connection to these historic times and through these weapons and your own ancestors. Appreciation of arms study reaches new dimensions when it becomes 'personal' and it is outstanding to have someone with such examples and connections posting here.

The Neumann book is one of the most reliable and profoundly important references on weapon of this period, and one of my most treasured times was meeting him and talking at length in person sharing ideas and observations. I have had his book since it came out in 1972, and trust me, it is well worn!

Thank you for the kind words! here we are all, always learning from each other and together. ...there is always so much more to learn! but that is the joy of it.

All the best,
Jim

Hanger1 · 16th December 2023, 05:53 PM

That’s incredible you got to spend time with him Jim. What a work that book is. I just received Armes Blanches and it too is amazing, although alas no answers. Thanks again for your valued input here and if you ever think of who the short list is of those french sabre experts are, please feel free to PM me with those.

Based on the competition you talked about amongst officers, I am sure the person who commissioned this sword probably said” Oui, mais votre poignée n'a pas les rainures sophistiquées comme la mienne.” Ha! Mais Oui.

Until next time.

Jeff

13th December 2023, 08:44 PM	#1
Hanger1 Member Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Trophy Club, Texas Posts: 7	Thank you Thank you Jim! I had seen many of your posts and I sincerely appreciate the insight on this topic. I was sort of coming to that conclusion with so many experts in here, that I figured it would be tough to figure out. It turns out I have ancestors that fought as British regulars, Provincial army during the French and Indian war at Lake George, at the Lexington battle, and then in Vermont as Captains. I just visited there to find the graves and explore their towns.Thus my foray into this. I love these swords, almost as much as some of my prized nihonto, but certainly more of a “connection”. Nihonto has a mind boggling amount of information to learn just to get going so I have a ton of vested interest there. I did get Neuman’s book, and I have the “Armes Blanche” on the way just to poke around. Thanks so much and I have really enjoyed your well detailed posts. I learned a lot from you. Great site here. Best, Jeff

14th December 2023, 09:34 AM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,277	Jeff, that is wonderful that you have found personal connection to these historic times and through these weapons and your own ancestors. Appreciation of arms study reaches new dimensions when it becomes 'personal' and it is outstanding to have someone with such examples and connections posting here. The Neumann book is one of the most reliable and profoundly important references on weapon of this period, and one of my most treasured times was meeting him and talking at length in person sharing ideas and observations. I have had his book since it came out in 1972, and trust me, it is well worn! Thank you for the kind words! here we are all, always learning from each other and together. ...there is always so much more to learn! but that is the joy of it. All the best, Jim

16th December 2023, 05:53 PM	#3
Hanger1 Member Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Trophy Club, Texas Posts: 7	That’s incredible you got to spend time with him Jim. What a work that book is. I just received Armes Blanches and it too is amazing, although alas no answers. Thanks again for your valued input here and if you ever think of who the short list is of those french sabre experts are, please feel free to PM me with those. Based on the competition you talked about amongst officers, I am sure the person who commissioned this sword probably said” Oui, mais votre poignée n'a pas les rainures sophistiquées comme la mienne.” Ha! Mais Oui. Until next time. Jeff