THE BORDER REIVERS.

Peter Hudson · 29th September 2023, 07:27 PM

I read a good report on the English Civil Wars at https://www.worldhistory.org/article...sh-civil-wars/

I note the English Cavalry information...however that the detail and reasoning for following up the potential use of Border Riever cavalry is basically absent following the 1644 Battle Of Marsden Moor. After this it appears that history is absorbed into the thick fog of subterfuge and myth...taking with it a failure to use the Border Riever expertise using the sturdy Galloway Horses or to incorporate these and their tough Border Rievers into English Cavalry Orbat.

Peter Hudson.

urbanspaceman · 29th September 2023, 08:20 PM

Hi Peter. That is a good article: five minutes reading and I learned all about militia ranks and file. Thank-you.

Peter Hudson · 29th September 2023, 08:59 PM

Hello Kieth, I dug up another great reference at https://archive.org/details/lifewill...p?view=theater covering the life of William Cavendish the Marquis of Newcastle which ties together his part in the Battle of Marsdon Moor as well as his distinction in raising several thousand mounted infantry known as The Whitecoats... ]

Peter.

urbanspaceman · 3rd October 2023, 11:49 AM

A wonderful dissertation; thanks Peter.

Peter Hudson · 5th October 2023, 02:50 AM

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Peter Hudson · 28th October 2023, 11:03 PM

Attachment 231313Just sweeping back through the thread I noted references to Whinjer at 37,38 and 39...and just picked up a picture of what seems to be a Whinjer ...A curved sword often worn by Border Reivers. There arent a lot of these about...I suppose variations on a theme would include Sinclair or Storta etc?

urbanspaceman · 29th October 2023, 10:45 AM

Hi Peter. Is this not a Hounslow Hanger.
Did it evolve from 16th C. Cavalry swords perhaps?

29th September 2023, 08:20 PM	#2
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 577	Civil War Hi Peter. That is a good article: five minutes reading and I learned all about militia ranks and file. Thank-you.

3rd October 2023, 11:49 AM	#4
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 577	Cavendish A wonderful dissertation; thanks Peter.

5th October 2023, 02:50 AM	#5
Peter Hudson Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 315	Another Border Reivers Map.

28th October 2023, 11:03 PM	#6
Peter Hudson Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 315	The Whinjer Attachment 231313Just sweeping back through the thread I noted references to Whinjer at 37,38 and 39...and just picked up a picture of what seems to be a Whinjer ...A curved sword often worn by Border Reivers. There arent a lot of these about...I suppose variations on a theme would include Sinclair or Storta etc? Attached Images Last edited by Peter Hudson; 28th October 2023 at 11:20 PM.

29th October 2023, 10:45 AM	#7
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 577	picture Hi Peter. Is this not a Hounslow Hanger. Did it evolve from 16th C. Cavalry swords perhaps?

29th September 2023, 07:27 PM	#1
Peter Hudson Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 315	I read a good report on the English Civil Wars at https://www.worldhistory.org/article...sh-civil-wars/ I note the English Cavalry information...however that the detail and reasoning for following up the potential use of Border Riever cavalry is basically absent following the 1644 Battle Of Marsden Moor. After this it appears that history is absorbed into the thick fog of subterfuge and myth...taking with it a failure to use the Border Riever expertise using the sturdy Galloway Horses or to incorporate these and their tough Border Rievers into English Cavalry Orbat. Peter Hudson.

29th September 2023, 08:59 PM	#3
Peter Hudson Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 315	Hello Kieth, I dug up another great reference at https://archive.org/details/lifewill...p?view=theater covering the life of William Cavendish the Marquis of Newcastle which ties together his part in the Battle of Marsdon Moor as well as his distinction in raising several thousand mounted infantry known as The Whitecoats... ] Peter.