Omani dagger? Filipino knife? and ivory hilt dha

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

My understanding from Malaysian colleagues is that it is purely the hulu shape that is the defining factor vs regional or status material flair.

Do you not consider 4 of Detlef's as Pepper Crusher hulu? I'd certainly consider #3 & 4 in this this image as Tumbuk Lada.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...0Tumbuk%20Lada.

3... definitely classic tumbuk lada (you must notice the slightly different scabbard as well).

4... I would call "sewar"... a rather classic one in my eyes.

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

3... definitely classic tumbuk lada (you must notice the slightly different scabbard as well).

4... I would call "sewar"... a rather classic one in my eyes.

I do notice all the differences amongst the variations of sewar and tumbuk lada presented.

Sadly Zonnevelds book lacked Malay examples, the images focus on the classic Sumatra style, yet it is very clear in the text what the hulu of the type resembles, which (and I'm happy to provide more images) is that seen in #4 too. It has all the classic curves, peaks and angles that the big brother next to it has.

Here also is the extract from Gardner, 1936 from which Zonneveld presented the text, it may or may not offer clarity.

[mariusgmioc]

Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

I do notice all the differences amongst the variations of sewar and tumbuk lada presented.

Sadly Zonnevelds book lacked Malay examples, the images focus on the classic Sumatra style, yet it is very clear in the text what the hulu of the type resembles, which (and I'm happy to provide more images) is that seen in #4 too. It has all the classic curves, peaks and angles that the big brother next to it has.

Here also is the extract from Gardner, 1936 from which Zonneveld presented the text, it may or may not offer clarity.

Very interesting! Thank you Gavin!

The border between sewar and tumbuk lada is indeed fuzzy.

So, then I guess that no4 could be called tumbuk lada too.